to feel that this is making me hate living in Scotland?

[Stardustlady]

I have posted here before about this - the incessant talk of referendums and yesterday's news about the bloody SNP drawing up a bill for bloody indyref 2. I am so fucking sick of it, I truly am. I love my life here but am just so fed up of the constant threat of independence referendums, I cannot and will not bear another one. My job would be seriously at risk in the event of independence and in any case I just wouldn't want to live here or bring my family up with the consequences of independence.

It's making me hate being Scottish and hate living in Scotland when I can never feel settled as the threat is constantly hanging over us. There are idiots on my FB celebrating the 'announcement' of indyref2 yesterday and I have just had enough of it all, I thought this was settled in 2014.

Truly hope Nicola Sturgeon is put in her place over this and told that no she's not getting another referendum and to get on with her actual job of running the country.

[Stardustlady]

Of course I'm not settled - how can I be when there's a high possibility that a referendum will come in the next few years that will mean I have to uproot my family.

I think another referendum is undemocratic as we have already had one.

I can assure you I don't need counselling or therapy, thanks! I would just like to live somewhere where I'm not constantly worried about the possibility I will have to move because of the political situation in my country, if I need counselling or therapy then I think an awful lot of other people in Scotland probably do too as I know I am not alone feeling this way, in hating the SNP and wishing for stability.

[Stardustlady]

I agree that a lot of EU citizens are living with uncertainty so why add to it with another referendum?

[FoggyMorn]

Well op, "all this" might indeed have stopped after 2014, without Brexit and the resultant shenanigans fanning the flames.

The more I hear Westminster politicians speak now, in the aftermath of that vote, the less I feel they speak for me, or my country, Scotland. I was a yes voter last time, and I will be again.

You fear for your job if Scotland becomes independent from rUK- I think there are huge numbers of people who will lose theirs, due to Brexit, both north and south of the border.

There isn't going to be a status quo, if the UK is broken up or not - everything is going to change now as a result of Brexit. There are political and economic shifts happening that are going to have very long lasting effects.

[expatinscotland]

Vote no then. Don't really see the point in getting worked up about this.

[cdtaylornats]

All the SNP have to do is call an election with Indyref2 as the platform. Assuming they survive then they can call it.

Alternatively run Scotland properly until the next scheduled election then campaign with Indyref2 as a proposal, if they have a majority then go ahead.

And next time around don't use a list of EU residents to send threatening letters to while complaining that the evil Tories want to compile the same list.

[cdtaylornats]

Nicola - Scotlands 9 of diamonds

[catlover1987]

100% agree OP. My husband is English and faced a barrage of abuse in 2014. The current political climate is making him very depressed indeed.

[APlaceOnTheCouch]

Stardust I'm sorry you found the suggestion of counselling somehow offensive but despite your claims of being similar to lots of other people, the truth is that there aren't lots of people on here starting threads.
You can't change if there's a referendum. You can't influence when it is held. You can't influence the outcome beyond casting your vote.
Lots of people are living with uncertainty just now. And, really there are only two ways to deal with it, try to find some peace with the uncertainty or take steps to remove yourself from the uncertainty. Opting for a third course of being incredibly angry isn't healthy or sustainable. No matter how much you shout on social media, it won't change the facts that are outwith your control.
Now, if you wanted to start a campaign on an independent commission having to provide a factual proposal for independence listing the pros and cons; and that paper to be provided to everyone prior to the vote then I'd happily support you. You see, that could possibly make a practical difference.
Complaining on MN (and let's face it you will be complaining for months and months at this rate) will only succeed in making you more angry and frustrated.

[Stardustlady]

Actually aplace it has made me feel a lot better - seeing that there are other people who feel upset at the thought of indyref2 has made me feel that I'm not alone in my frustration!

[petitpois55]

OP, you sound rather obsessed with the SNP, and the prospect of Indey ref 2. The fact is Brexit is a complete game changer, and the SNP are perfectly entitled to hold another referendum.
I suspect this time it would be a yes as well.
I think you do need to move actually. You sound very unhappy. I cannmot imagne something like this dominating my everyday life.

[petitpois55]

Your 'frustration' changes nothing OP. The democratic process not going to grind to a halt because your're frustrated.

[madgingermunchkin]

FoggyMorn

So what's going to keep our country afloat if we do go it alone? The arse has fallen out of the oil industry, and doesn't look like it's going to recover anytime soon. Not only that, but we wouldn't get any revenue from it anyway.

If you think things will be back in the UK post Brexit, it is nothing compared to how things will be for Scotland if they ever end up independent.

[madgingermunchkin]

*bad

[Heatherbell1978]

YANBU although Brexit has changed things a bit. DH and I decided we'd emigrate if the Yes vote won 2014 and then following Brexit we've taken the plunge anyway. Hopefully we'll be living in Australia by the time this referendum happens. I love Scotland but need some more stability in our lives and the UK just doesn't offer that at the moment.

[BlancheBlue]

Sturgeon is no different from any other bloated power hungry politician

[Bodicea]

They chose to remain part of the uk. The uk voted for brexit. Therefore they voted for brexit. They can't threaten independence every time the uk does something they don't like. I don't want brexit either but that's life. My country made a decision as a whole and that's the end of it.

[Stardustlady]

I'm not the one obsessed by indyref2 - I'll leave that to the SNP. I am concerned by it though - especially as it will have such an effect on my life. I hardly think that's unreasonable!

[Stardustlady]

Petitpois perhaps if you knew that your life would be turned upside down by a yes vote you would think about it a lot too - use your imagination?

[Stardustlady]

'If you think things will be back in the UK post Brexit, it is nothing compared to how things will be for Scotland if they ever end up independent.'

This times 100. People just do not want to see that the austerity and difficulties we are experiencing now would be far worse in a poor, independent Scotland. I don't intend to stick around to experience it for myself!

[PigletWasPoohsFriend]

I suspect this time it would be a yes as well.

Polls say different, as they do for the demand for another referendum.

[BeJayKayven]

Stardust you are definitely not alone in your feelings and definitely not being unreasonable.

[petitpois55]

You've got nothing to fear than have you piglet

[petitpois55]

OP, why dont you try to put your energy in to something more positive. I think you'd be a lot happier.
Hating the SNP, and by default the prospect of another Ref is a real waste of energy, and it wont change a thing..

[APlaceOnTheCouch]

If I found it so unsettling and didn't intend to stick around then I'd probably only feel better once I'd decided on the details of moving. Because, regardless of whether or not there is another referendum or its outcome, you seem to have a lack of respect for people who vote differently from you; and a 'hatred' of a party that is unlikely to disappear (although probably its support will lessen at some point taking into account the cycles of history).
Are you a member of a different political party?

[user1471519931]

I sympathise with the worry about losing your job in a potential Indy Scotland, but I will definitely lose mine if the UK leaves the EU...