To not give a fuck about yeast spread costing a few more pennies when there are pensioners that have lost 30% of their pension

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Even if the spread went up, its only pennies a week. This is all noise and distracting from the real issues.

Pensioners abroad have seen their pension be cut by 30% since the vote. 30 fucking percent that is no small amount and will negatively impact millions!

I didn't hear complaints when the pound was going up and their pension went a lot further than it used to.

£1 got 1.40 Euros in 2015. Now it's back to levels around 2010.

I agree with many others

I understand that it must be upsetting to have less money coming in than you thought but there are a lot of people going to struggle in the future

Here is another newsflash for 'we can grow our own food right here': crops fail. Not all the time but when they do, they do hard.

Oh, yes, they lived through the war. My parents are 80 and 75 respectively, they were little kids during the war. Even my dad says, 'I'm a dinosaur, a dying breed. You will never have it as good,' and tries to help us as much as he can. The house he bought in the US for $19,000 in 1972 is now worth over $300,000 and its value has increased 17% in the last year.

I earn 40p above minimum wage which is worth less than it did this time last year, I also won't get the chance to retire or buy a house.

Yeah I don't care about pensioners living in the sun.

Queen I'm aware of the slave labour in garment factories in Bangladesh and other places, yes. But we don't need tons of cheap clothes, we just need some clothes.

many things wouldn't cost a little bit more if they were manufactured here, they would cost a lot more.

Yes, but even if it cost many times the Primark et al price to buy stuff, we'd just need to buy less stuff. And have a culture of second hand for rapidly growing children.

...you can't isolate yourself fully from global manufacturing. I didn't suggest we could. Just that we could depend on it less. I'm pretty sure we don't have even a fraction of the land needed to be self suffient, unfortunately...

...many people in the UK cannot manage on what little they have, and certainly wouldn't be able to cope if the cost of school uniform, for example, quadrupled overnight.

Wouldn't this be balanced out by having more jobs?

And i agree with ego

I was trying to find a nice way of saying that but gave up

"my marmite is bloody but unbowed"

So is mine and long may it remain.

What jobs? Subsistence ones that don't pay enough to live. Get a clue, we don't have widgets to sell that the global market wants and needs to buy. We sold all our industry off.

Kondo I know you were joking, I was joking too. Classic example of tone not transferring on the internet. Apologies if you thought I was taking the piss.

It would be nice if we could grow tea in Yorkshire though...

1950sMum It's not just marmite though. It's pot noodle too

As a lighthearted aside gallows humour I wonder if we will have a series of random shortages due to people panic buying whatever the papers suggest is next? Then people with cellars full of Marmite, pot noodles etc they are quietly trying to get rid of for years...

Once buying less doesn't work when you have growing children - they can't make do and mend clothes that don't fit anymore. Yes, eventually clothes will get passed down - but that requires better manufacturing quality than we currently get, which will again cost money.

I wouldn't bet on loads more jobs either. Many manufacturing jobs can be automated and are in many countries/industries. They just don't bother in the developing world because labour is cheaper than technology out there. So you'll end up with the unenviable position of not many more jobs, and vastly increased prices.

By the time I retire (I'm 46) I very much doubt there will be a state pension. Or an NHS in the form we know it now. Lord knows how things will be when DS gets to retirement age.

It angers me greatly that pensions and pensioners seem to have their benefits and funds protected, whilst all around them funding is cut from vital areas and we all know there is not enough provision for the pensions of the future.

I'd like to see the government or any political party, start facing up to the fact that we have to make hard decisions about these matters now as the sooner we do then the more time we have to make necessary changes.

So no I'm not too bothered by those pensioners that chose to live abroad. Or Marmite actually , or indeed pot noodles.

No sympathy for pensioners who can afford to live abroad. The risk of moving to another country if your income is in a different currency is that the value of it will fluctuate. Working people are usually paid in the currency of the country they live in, so while it's value back home fluctuates, their income and expenses are valued the same,

Anyone who was an adult in ww2 would now be well into their 90s. Not the sixty/seventy something baby boomers who are generally the ones who are affected

For some reason op you remind me of the poster who was upset about Morrisons offering a student discount when there are "starving pensioners" all over Britain.

That was bollocks too.

I think it's safe to say that the majority couldn't give a shit

They shouldn't even be allowed to claim their pension if they are living abroad. They've chosen to leave Britain then they aren't entitled to a British benefit IMO. As for them coming over for medical treatment, don't even get me started on that.

Perhaps because some pensioners are better off financially that some families that work.

I think it's safe to say that the majority couldn't give a shit

I don't think that's entirely true. I think its deeply shit that our country is slowly going to the dogs. Wait until the car manufacturers leave and the financial services industry is squeezed...Things are likely to get really fecking hard. But that was the choice made, and brexitters at least have the consolation that they got control back.

Bizzarely, with dh NHS pension and mine being f-all, and us living g in Scotland, it might actually be cheaper for us to live in Spain! Without the heating bills (we've actually looked into this!). I'd need to be assured of a moderately expensive health treatment out there. Even considering dh retiring early (around 60) and him working as a GP in some of the urbanisations on the Costa del sol.
But it's a bit ridiculous that a very-much-in-need-Scottish-riral-gp would be thinking, even with brexit, about moving. He's a German citizen with the right to Irish nationality while being born British. We're looking into the German thing for our dc rihht now.
I'm VERY Scottish and I'd hate to leave. Dh has lived here longer than he did in NI and Glasgow is home, plus we own a dream home in the Outer Hebrides. But Brexit has changed things. For the first time, we're thinking somewhere like Italy, or Spain (I speak Spanish) is possibly an option.

And we both HATE Marmite!

Ego In other words, if you are abroad, you don't pay income tax Yes you do. I'm about to do the UK returns.

Fyi, tea is grown in Cornwall on the Tregothnan Estate tregothnan.co.uk

£4.15 for 10 tea bags?

Shit's going to get real.

That's ok Queen, thanks, I may have over-reacted a tad

I'd hate to leave, but this isn't looking good, tbh.

Kondo that's OK, tea is an emotive subject!

scaryteacher - that is amazing that it's grown in the UK, but OMG, I would have to seriously reduce my tea intake at that price.