To not give a fuck about yeast spread costing a few more pennies when there are pensioners that have lost 30% of their pension

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Even if the spread went up, its only pennies a week. This is all noise and distracting from the real issues.

Pensioners abroad have seen their pension be cut by 30% since the vote. 30 fucking percent that is no small amount and will negatively impact millions!

I thought income tax on private pensions in uk was taken before you received it.

Also, sorry, have been rubbish at following new recently... normally know about these things in advance. If anyone has any links to share, espcially regarding disability benefits dropping by 30%, I'd appreciate it... tried google but can't find that for some reason.

I'm only staying alive to piss off the government...

I personally don't tend to buy much in the way of unilever products but on the scale of things it is small.

In terms of pensioners, there are pensioners abroad, not expat Brits who are suffering huge pension cuts, they are in Greece and Spain and other southern European countries. My own ILs have had huge cuts to their pensions, ones they could barely afford.

In the face of this I don't tend to worry about a few pence on Marmite.

And they are in the EU.

Perhaps they should have a word with their fellow pensioners, who happened to overwhelmingly vote for this Brexit shitstorm?

I think people will care if emigrants start to trickle, and then maybe even flood, home.

For the people abroad on sterling based incomes coming home may start to look ever more attractive. Their incoming funds have effectively dropped like a stone BUT if they release euro based capital (e.g. sell the EU house they live in) and whip the proceeds back the UK while the exchange rate is this low, or even lower... depending on what the exchange rate was when they left, they could make a significant profit.

I think (hope?) that the Uk and the EU will bash out a deal that leaves everybody who moved countries pre-Brexit with the right to remain and work. Which I think is the only sane solution. However the plunge of sterling in conjunction with that sort of policy could mean more pressure placed on U.k. housing stock and services if the number of returnees is a lot higher than has been anticipated.

Personally I'd be wanting to keep taking the pulse of the UK emigrant community in Spain. It's huge. Spain is having issues of its own, you add in U.K. based income falling in terms of day to day buying power and it's not beyond the realms of possibility that anything from a notable wave to a Tsunami of people could end up feeling coming home is their only realistic option.

I don't like Marmite and they don't sell it where I live anyway. So not fussed about that. However it's not really about Marmite. It's about the extent to which the UK typical shopping basket might cost a lot more, and what impact that will have on inflation. And/or the risk for British based food industries, with the potential for job losses.

So, I'm not picking either/or as more important. They are both very significant early alarm bells of what might be on the horizon.

Umm, I understand they would be upset. I am upset by the headaches at work Brexit currency fall is creating.

But I don't feel sympathy for them anymore than I feel it for myself.

I feel sympathy for the people who have to count their weekly food shop down to the pennies and who will be massively affected by the food inflation on the horizon.

I buy a load of stuff form Unilever, washing power, softetener, shampoo, conditioner, handwaah, margarine, ice cream, stock cubes, the occasionalpot noodle, amongst others.

Thank God they don't have their grubby mits on Yorkshire Tea.

I think sympathy regarding pensions should be saved for those women in their late 50s who've been told for the last 40 odd years that they'd get a state pension at 60 and are now told it will be 66.

Softetener and Handwaah? Why won't my thumbs be guided by my brain?

I have little sympathy.
Cuts have been made left, right and centre and pensioners have generally been excluded.
As for working since the age of 16? Not all. For many pensioners the norm was what free uni education and income enough to allow one parent to stay at home, and buy their homes. Early retirement etc.
Now we have a nation that both parents have to work, and still on the breadline. Parents skipping meals to enable their children to eat. Queues at food banks. Disability support cut. High uni fees with grants now cut. Pension age of what 68? Homelessness levels high and will increase because of the cuts coming very soon. I could go on.

So I have few fucks to give about some people who will have to make a few cuts backs, when the cost of yeast is increasing, which will effect more people

Thank God they don't have their grubby mits on Yorkshire Tea

I don't think we grow tea up here in Yorkshire

How's the rupee doing?

Who owns Yorkshire Tea??? Do panic.

'I think sympathy regarding pensions should be saved for those women in their late 50s who've been told for the last 40 odd years that they'd get a state pension at 60 and are now told it will be 66.'

And they didn't see that coming? For real? The writing has been on the wall for a long time. More and more people living 30+ years on pensions, it was never going to be sustainable. It still isn't. 'Retirement' was only meant to last about 5 years before you died with a certain percentage dying before ever drawing on it. Working hard and then popping your clogs is the way it has been and the way it is for most of the entire planet. That's life!

If you are receiving a pension in £ and choose to live abroad, you have to accept currency fluctuations.

If you want marmite, you have to pay whatever price the retailer wants you to pay.

It's Taylors of Harrogate. I can do a sit down protest at Betty's, how civilised.

How's the rupee doing?

xe just now

post my damn piccie you horrible button you

I can do a sit down protest at Betty's, how civilised

They will just dust round you.

Expat, there were many women who weren't told their new retirement age - and indeed others who were told 63 and then a year or two later were told it was 66. Some had private pensions which wouldn't release funds until the state pension kicked in, so they lost twice.

Marmite is the tip of the iceberg. Everything will go up eventually.

What did they lose? They will still be able to draw the pension, just not at 60 or 63. Did people really think they were going to be able to stop working for good at 60? That's like me, age 45, thinking I'll get any pension at all. I won't. I'll get FA. Duh.

I freely admit I don't really understand this stuff, but would appreicate if someone could explain the ins and outs. Because I was thinking about food prices a while back....

It was conversation with someone about the fact that most of our (UK) food is imported. And there's stuff like fast fashion which is basically taking advantage of moving jobs out to other countries in order to get a cheap workforce and thus a cheap product. Also we are generally encouraged to buy "stuff" to keep the money swirling round.

Anyway, if things like clothes were made here, more food grown etc, the prices would go up because of the increased costs of paying a UK workforce. But then, surely, there would be more jobs, less under- and unemployment. So people wouldn't be on the breadline anymore. And we could stop buying pointless crap so it wouldn't matter if food/clothes were more expensive. People would have what they need, instead of creating pointless service jobs and cluttering up the planet with crap. We could repair broken things instead of replacing them .

Plus there'd be positive impacts on health etc so savings to be made there...

What am I missing?

Re NHS why shouldn't they come back to use the NHS, they have been funding it their entire lives. Most started work at 16.

Quite the generalisation, but you've no idea if this is true. Some pensioners worked from 16 until 65. Plenty more didn't, and frankly even the ones who did may well spend almost as much time taking out of the pot as they did putting in, even if we assume that working means you were a net funder (it doesn't). The reality is that pensioner doesn't automatically equal someone who funded the NHS.

Anyway, I sympathise with those suffering negative effects from the vote if they voted Remain. Otherwise, my fucks will be spent on the more deserving: if you voted for it and you now lose out, that's your problem. That said, the potential impact of them all returning home could be huge (yet another problem the Leave campaign didn't bother about). That would certainly concern me, although maybe not as much as a potential rise in food prices.

Its all part of the same unnecessary shit we're going to be going through for the next, ooh twenty years or so.

And since pensioners voted overwhelmingly for leave, I have less sympathy for them than other groups.

Plus, most of them made their money through property/luck, got free University education, fixed (early) pensions, NHS free at point of delivery: our generation or our kids generation will have nothing like this.

Oh well.

Once many things wouldn't cost a little bit more if they were manufactured here, they would cost a lot more. Do you know how little girls in garment factories in Bangladesh get paid? It's slave labour.

Added to that the fact that many raw materials cannot be produced in the UK (climate not suitable for example), and you can't isolate yourself fully from global manufacturing.

I agree re make-do-and mend, but many people in the UK cannot manage on what little they have, and certainly wouldn't be able to cope if the cost of school uniform, for example, quadrupled overnight. The UK has enjoyed the low-prices delivered by global manufacturing for 100s of years (that's why the Empire was so important to the state)