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To not give a fuck about yeast spread costing a few more pennies when there are pensioners that have lost 30% of their pension

155 replies

jdoe8 · 13/10/2016 11:42

Even if the spread went up, its only pennies a week. This is all noise and distracting from the real issues.

Pensioners abroad have seen their pension be cut by 30% since the vote. 30 fucking percent that is no small amount and will negatively impact millions!

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Squeegle · 13/10/2016 12:43

I still don't really understand why unilever are trying to put up the price of marmite to UK customers when it is made here. It would be different if we were importing it surely.

2kids2dogsnosense · 13/10/2016 12:45

Gowgirl
I have an unopened jar dh brought me for Christmas, shall I auction it on mums net?

Do nothing yet!

In a month it will be worth enough for you to get an new car, upgrade your house and have a helicopter pad put in.

Nurszilla · 13/10/2016 12:46

Struggling to feel sorry for them tbh. Our landlord is one of them, doubt his pension makes much of an impact in his financial affairs in comparison to the 20+ properties he bought back in the days, now owns outright and rents to us peasants at well over 60% of my salary as a registered nurse.

If they've moved somewhere warm they may not even need heating Wink

2kids2dogsnosense · 13/10/2016 12:48

Sleep

Yes - "Unbroken and unbowed"*

Not sure if the expression relates to Marmite, though.

  • I mistyped this, and this, and the autocorrect thingy (with which I have a very uneasy relationship) actually offered "unbowed" as the suggestion I was well impressed.
QueenJuggler · 13/10/2016 12:48

Squeegle Because not all Unilever products are made in the UK, and they are amortising price impact of currency fluctuation across all products, and as an Anglo-Dutch company, many of its staff involved in the marketing and other "hidden cost" aspects of production are working in the Eurozone.

Cocklodger · 13/10/2016 12:50

Its costing us £20,000 (so far) to move to a non EU country.
Now tbf I'm sure its cheaper when you don't need to have a visa and flights are cheaper, but the cost of shipping containers for your stuff and the like is always expensive.
I'd estimate that moving to an EU country likely costs in the region of about 4,000 out of pocket expenses (I say out of pocket because if you sell your car here and buy a 'new' used car over there, you'd probably break even ish) minimum.
If they can save up 4k to move and live abroad in a nice hot country, something generally reserved for the middle classes and those on cushy pensions, I can't really have much sympathy tbh, Its disappointing indeed but I'm more upset that over 1 million people a year rely on foodbanks. I'm more disappointed that we have benefit cuts that force people away from their homes in London and SE.

I'm more disappointed that we have a generation of young people that have the worst of everything, housing, unemployment, social issues, to name but a few.

Squeegle · 13/10/2016 12:53

thank you Queen, they're not being fair to us are they though, but it is good example of how moving out of the eurozone will make us poorer, even for those products made and bought here. It's rubbish.

anon123456 · 13/10/2016 12:54

I have just cleared 2 local supermarkets out of Marmite. Putting them up on ebay for £19.99 each + P&P, next day delivery is available. Bring on Brexit. Any one wanting to buy, them my username is marmitemillionaire

Natsku · 13/10/2016 12:55

If they've moved somewhere warm they may not even need heating Hell, perhaps?

KeyserSophie · 13/10/2016 12:56

The pensioners can make up their income bootlegging marmite into the UK

QueenJuggler · 13/10/2016 12:59

Squeegle 10% across the board seems fairer than massive hikes across limited products that might be more essential for people e.g. washing powder and hygiene/personal care products. Marmite's hardly an essential item (well, it is in my household, but you know what I mean!)

IminaPickle · 13/10/2016 13:03

Pensioners abroad come about fiftieth in my list of things to give a shit about,

Fluffyears · 13/10/2016 13:04

So should we up their pensions by 30% to compensate when they chose to go abroad and where would the money come from?

Ego147 · 13/10/2016 13:04

These pensioners will probably not be getting many visits - what with the price of fuel going up as it's sold in dollars and the pound has gone down against the dollar.

So that will be plane fares rising, foreign holidays getting more expensive, general transport costs rising etc - all which impact on people.

BowieFan · 13/10/2016 13:06

At least they get a retirement. I'll be 68 before I can claim my pension and I guarantee in the next 28 years it'll be going up even further. I wish I could retire to the Costa Del Sol, but it's unlikely.

I struggle to find any sympathy for rich pensioners who are in a position to live abroad. They stopped paying into the system the moment they left. It's not an investment, it's pay as you go.

Idliketobeabutterfly · 13/10/2016 13:07

But they've moved abroad and although they get taxed here they don't spend their money here.

MuseumOfCurry · 13/10/2016 13:11

Pensioners abroad come about fiftieth in my list of things to give a shit about,

Yes. I care quite a bit about the elderly being lonely or shut in, but don't worry too much about their finances.

Mellowmarsh · 13/10/2016 13:13

Yabu, we are really struggling to feed our family. A 10 per cent food price hike will mean more hunger.

Ego147 · 13/10/2016 13:14

But they've moved abroad and although they get taxed here they don't spend their money here

I thought you only paid UK income tax if you lived in the UK during a tax year - or were resident for a certain time?

In other words, if you are abroad, you don't pay income tax.

sashh · 13/10/2016 13:15

regardless of the NHS rules they all come back here for treatment as no-one is going to ask them if they are "residing here permanently" as long as they have some sort of UK address given that they will still have a UK Passport and an NHS card

Having had a number of hospital admissions over the last 5 years I can tell you they do ask and you have to sign a declaration.

Ifounddory · 13/10/2016 13:18

I still don't really understand why unilever are trying to put up the price of marmite to UK customers when it is made here. It would be different if we were importing it surely.

The ingredients are imported and the margins on raw ingredients are far smaller than those on finished products. Unilever are trying to pass some of the losses on to the companies they sell to so they don't have to absorb them all. If Unilever went under it would have a massive impact as they are a large employer in this country and have several manufacturing plants over here.

Things are likely further complicated for the company in general by the fact that they have split HQ with one in London and one in Rotterdam. I imagine brexit is a nightmare for them as they are basically a European company with a strong base in two EU countries, one of which is about to leave the EU.

KondosSecretJunkRoom · 13/10/2016 13:19

That must be really stressful Mellow. Flowers

drivinmecrazy · 13/10/2016 13:20

This generalisation of pensioners living within the EU is actually very offensive and upsetting to many people that I know. People who did not generally vote Brexit. They are concerned about far more than fluctuations in their income. They are worried that their current right to receive treatment as a resident is threatened, ae worried about their rights to stay in their chosen countries of residence , their right to work and other areas currently protected through our membership of the EU.
Absolutely no different to the concerns and fears than many non UK nationals who have chosen to make their home within UK.

KondosSecretJunkRoom · 13/10/2016 13:22

Sorry, ignore the Flowers it looks patronising, reading it back. I just didn't want your post to get lost amongst a lot of abstract hypotheticals when you are facing hunger.

OnceThereWasThisGirlWho · 13/10/2016 13:27

Queen Marmite's hardly an essential item

Isn't it a relatively cheap way of getting B vitamins, especially if you can't afford much meat? (or are veggie, obvs)