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To not give a fuck about yeast spread costing a few more pennies when there are pensioners that have lost 30% of their pension

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jdoe8 · 13/10/2016 11:42

Even if the spread went up, its only pennies a week. This is all noise and distracting from the real issues.

Pensioners abroad have seen their pension be cut by 30% since the vote. 30 fucking percent that is no small amount and will negatively impact millions!

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ClopySow · 13/10/2016 15:12

Who do you actually blame? Because it's not the remain or leave voters controlling the value of money.

And do you feel equally sorry for people who have moved to this country who were promised all sorts of wonderful and now find themselves living in an openly xenophobic country? Or is it just our ex pats you feel sorry for?

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LittleLionMansMummy · 13/10/2016 15:21

Its all part of the same unnecessary shit we're going to be going through for the next, ooh twenty years or so.

Still, short term pain for long term gain, we're getting our country back, reclaiming control, it was a democratic decision, there's a clear mandate, Remainers should STFU and get on with it etc etc etc. We may well be getting our country back - except it's no longer 'united', potentially a third of its previous size if Scotland leave and resembles something from the 1940s. Forget marmite - I'm waiting for the return of the ration book and wheelbarrows full of cash to buy a loaf of bread.

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MrHannahSnell · 13/10/2016 15:31

You move abroad, you take the currency risks. No sympathy. Sorry.

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itsawonderfulworld · 13/10/2016 15:44

It's not just Marmite though, or even Unilever products in general. This is just the beginning. Most of our goods are imported, and even the few that are produced/manufactured in the UK (like Marmite) are often owned by international companies, or made using imported raw materials. ALL of these products will increase in price as the pound plummets - almost 20% already. Oh and fuel too of course. And clothing.

In a few months' time, ALL our everyday shopping will have increased by a lot more than 10%. I bet there will be fewer sneery jokes about "yeast spread" then.

My family is financially secure enough that we can afford it - we won't starve even if our weekly food shop doubles, which is totally possible in the next few years. We'll just be less well off (and less able to help others, create job opportunities etc as we'll have to scale back our businesses). But most people simply won't be able to cope. I hope all those sneering about Marmite have deep pockets indeed as pretty much all your purchases are going to climb up (while benefits and pensions are cut, of course, as there will be less money in the total pot).

Frankly, I'm more concerned about pensioners and other vulnerable people in the UK who haven't got a clue yet what's going to hit them. The sad thing is that many of them voted for Brexit and did this to us all.

And the even sadder thing is that they are still calling this "Project Fear". By the time they wake up to reality it will be too late and Maggie May will have triggered A50.

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Rosa · 13/10/2016 15:52

I pay Voluntarily into the Uk system. having worked and paid contributions for 20 years I decided that I wanted to keep my pension so I pay every fucking year just for that. I go to the Uk and if I or my kids need medical treatment we use it as non residents, so pay as and where required as the brits do at present who come to Europe. So yes I feel I am ENTITLED to my pension wherever I live as I have paid for it ..... I have another 15 years or so to go so the question is do I keep paying or pop down to the local casino and bung it all on red as that has the same probability of me ever getting any of it back. And no I do not get any form of benefits where I live either....

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itsawonderfulworld · 13/10/2016 15:52

many people in the UK cannot manage on what little they have, and certainly wouldn't be able to cope if the cost of school uniform, for example, quadrupled overnight.

Queenjuggler yes, yes and yes! Most people really have no idea what's about to happen. My small business sells clothing, mainly children's - practical, everyday stuff. We've been able to keep our prices down so far because the current season was pre-ordered well before the Referendum, so before the pound started to plummet (and guess what, we're exporting like never before as the low pound has made our prices incredibly cheap to customers outside the UK). BUT our suppliers' prices for next year all take projected currency rates into account, and we already know that we'll have to put our prices up by 20-30%, probably more in the long term. Whether or not it will be worth it for us to keep going is finely hanging in the balance. We're not a charity and our profit margins are already very low (as in just about managing to pay our employees a decent wage without taking anything out ourselves). And we're not the only ones in this situation - small businesses around the UK are going to have to make some tough decisions in the next couple of years.

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VeryBitchyRestingFace · 13/10/2016 16:07

Is unbowed even a word!!!?

Yes, yes and thrice yes.

As in:

my marmite is bloody but unbowed

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HalloToJasonIsaacs · 13/10/2016 16:11

YABU and either incredibly short sighted or hugely disingenuous for saying it's about a few pence on marmite. It's clearly about the threat a rise of 10%+ on a large range of household essentials with Unilever just the first in line. And there are a lot of people who'll really struggle with that, given flat wages and squeezed benefits.

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Radiatorvalves · 13/10/2016 16:11

Life across the board is going to get more expensive as articulated by Itsawonderfulworld (sorry - I don't think it is right now) thanks to Brexit.

I do know pensioners who live abroad, and I do feel sorry for them. Their circumstances vary, but the people I know best worked abroad (civil service, forces) and so have contributed through out their lives to UK taxation. It is tough for them - and I can guarantee you that these people did not vote for Brexit.

You may not feel any sympathy for them given the plight of others - well it is only going to get worse for all as reality (formerly known as Project Fear) bites.

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QueenJuggler · 13/10/2016 16:11

And let's be clear, it's not just Unilever who are going to be doing this. Tea that's grown outside the UK (err, that will be all tea then, even Yorkshire Tea) - currency impact. Bananas grown in Latam - currency impact. I'm hard pushed to think of many goods that are 100% UK grown or manufactured all year round.

You can buy British - but it's seasonal, hard, and bloody expensive. Everything else will go up in price.

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Radiatorvalves · 13/10/2016 16:12

PS I hate Marmite, but this isn't about Marmite.

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KondosSecretJunkRoom · 13/10/2016 16:30

Right, ignore all that, the thrust of which was:

Hold on a minute, I only mentioned Yorkshire Tea as a bit of a joke as one of the few companies who are not owned by Unilever after listing all the Unilever products which I do use in my home following a pp who said that they don't have many Unilever products in their own home.

I am well aware that tea leaves do not grow in Yorkshire. Thanks.

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Ego147 · 13/10/2016 16:30

I wonder if Corbyn will raise this at PMQs?

'Is a devaluing of the pound good for British consumers?'

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Ego147 · 13/10/2016 16:32

I am well aware that tea leaves do not grow in Yorkshire. Thanks

Give it a few years with climate change and that might well change Grin

We could have tea plantations on Ilkley Moor.

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Oysterbabe · 13/10/2016 16:39

Will they be turfed out and sent back by the EU countries when we boot out their citizens?

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Idliketobeabutterfly · 13/10/2016 16:40
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CockacidalManiac · 13/10/2016 16:41

I can do a sit down protest at Betty's, how civilised

Marwood: [with his mouth full] All right, Miss Blennerhassett, I'm warning you, if you do, you're fired. We are multimillionaires. We shall buy this place and fire you immediately.
Withnail: Yes, we'll buy this place and we'll install a fucking jukebox in here and liven all you stiffs up a bit!

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buckingfrolicks · 13/10/2016 16:44

Frankly quite entertained by evidence of the growing realisation on people that brexit means all shades of shit are going to come down on our heads. Including the expat (or would that be migrants? Sunshine seeking economic migrants) population.

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cathf · 13/10/2016 16:46

Despite what my parents think, I believe pensioners today have got a pretty good life compared to younger people.
If my dad tells me one more time how they had to save to buy a house and only his wage could be taken into account for the mortgage, I swear I will throttle him.
The point being, the younger generation would never be able to buy his house on one wage seems to pass him by.
I don't think pensioner benefits and perks should be protected either, and despite the emotive guff spoken, most of today's pensioners were children (or not around) during the war, retired on final-salary pensions, bought houses when prices were do-able on one wage and benefited from free university education for themselves and their children.
The generation before them (their parents) had things a lot worse, the generation after them (ie me, 49!)will not do so well and my children's generation are well and truely shafted.
Using the principal that it will always cost more to bring up a family, I think it's a disgrace that families are bearing government cutbacks while pensioners remain untouchable

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Astley · 13/10/2016 16:48

No sympathy at all. Not a drop. Their pension hasn't changed a single penny. They are getting the EXACT same as all other pensioners. What they choose to do with the pounds they are given is their decision.

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BowieFan · 13/10/2016 16:57

Rosa

Not how it works though. You don't pay for your own pension, you pay to give the last generation theirs. When you retire, the next generation will be paying your pension. It's not an investment, it's pay as you go.

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That1950sMum · 13/10/2016 17:03

It's not just marmite though. It's pot noodle too. I'm going to have to stockpile some beefy ones.

Don't give a fig about sun-seeking pensioners who should have known the risks when they chose to move overseas.

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