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to be impressed with Theresa May?

348 replies

SunnyInMay · 05/10/2016 13:02

I'm a traditional Labour voter who feels alienated by the party and Corbyn.

Theresa May really seems like a breath of fresh air in listening to peoples concerns and understanding what matters to ordinary voters.

I know words are easy to say and the proof will be in the action she takes in the years to come but I have a good feeling about her.

OP posts:
ElornaElephant · 05/10/2016 14:20

I honestly have no idea - Politically I'm a once-Labour voting (now totally disillusioned) floating voter who dislikes much of Tory policy. I voted remain, I still strongly believe that remaining in the EU is the best thing for the UK, but I do think that Brexit is now inevitable and I have confidence that with Theresa May, it won't totally be cocked up hopefully.

Not happy about the foreign workers list however.

PageStillNotFound404 · 05/10/2016 14:20

Thatsme is there room in your corner for me to stand there with you? You've summed up my feelings - and fears.

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 05/10/2016 14:21

So you may not like my opinion, but its born of years of dealing with these selfish destructive pricks. So yes I think the tories are evil.

So you know every single Tory then do you?

If people actually listen to Corbyn - as he was I think on Andrew Marr the other week - he has sensible things to say. But that's another conversation.

He is completely ineffective.

oh and before you start calling me an evil Tory, until yesterday I was a Labour Party member and campaigner

Londonista · 05/10/2016 14:21

Am a bit shocked by this thread. People need to read up just what kind of conservative Theresa May is and then find out what that means. I am scared for the NHS, our schools and universities, the disabled and their carers and above all, for all the foreign workers who help us keep this place running. The fact that she's more of a leader than Jeremy Corbyn, Tim Farron or whichever blackshirt is in charge of UKIP is not saying very much.

NobleKnickerNibbler · 05/10/2016 14:22

The fact that she's more of a leader than Jeremy Corbyn, Tim Farron or whichever blackshirt is in charge of UKIP is not saying very much.

Exactly.

MaudGonneMad · 05/10/2016 14:23

YY Londonista There were some fairly charismatic, 'strong' and effective leaders around in the 1930s as well.

gillybeanz · 05/10/2016 14:25

Theresa May really seems like a breath of fresh air in listening to peoples concerns and understanding what matters to ordinary voters.

Ha Ha Ha Ha Grin Grin Oh, that's so funny.
Unless you are one of the elite, you're going to get right shafted.
I'm sure there's only one Mnetter who would actually not lose out much with a conservative government.
Anybody seen Xenia lately?

SweetLathyrus · 05/10/2016 14:25

Yes, you are being VERY UNREASONABLE. The racism she espouses (implicit and explicit) is having very real effects on real people. What next? Blue arms bands with gold stars for non-British EU Nationals?

Londonista · 05/10/2016 14:25

And by the way, there may have been lots of issues that influenced the way people voted in the referendum, but the question that was on ballot papers was only asking people's opinion on whether we should leave the EU, so the only fact we know about "what people want" is that 52% of people want that. The government has a mandate for that - no more, no less. And a very slim mandate at that. FFS this thread has put me right off my lunch.

Realhousewivesofshit · 05/10/2016 14:25

t4nut

Yes I was 18 in 1982 and a Labour Party member. Thatcher did some very stupid and ill judged things and ran unchallenged and why

Because labour has imploded due to militants infiltration and it took years to sort out.

Sound familiar?? Corbyn will never ever be elected as he has lots of lovely ideas that no bastard can afford.

Sorry don't spout to me about the thatcher years I lived then too and all the bloody recessions since and you and people like you supporting momentum policies will keep the tories in for years and years.

You may call the tories evil but you are really their best assets because you persist in supporting an unelectable leader.

Believeitornot · 05/10/2016 14:26

Yabu

She has said some nice appeasing words.

But she hasn't delivered. And she is a Tory.

Lovewhereilive · 05/10/2016 14:27

Disgusted by the little Britain mentality and the anti-foreigner rhetoric. It feels like history repeating itself, only here instead of Germany.

It's unbelievable, only 4 years ago when the London Olympics were on, I felt very proud to be British. Now, 4 years later, I am so ashamed. Tim Farron is one of very few politicians speaking sense.

(My username needs changing doesn't it - except it refers to my village rather than country!)

Londonista · 05/10/2016 14:29

Sweet and Maud

So agree. Not liking where this is heading, not one little bit. All very worrying.

EllyMayClampett · 05/10/2016 14:30

It hasn't taken long for this thread to hyperbolic! Already comparisons to Hitler! You did choose to post on AIBU, OP. Grin

MaudGonneMad · 05/10/2016 14:30

And by the way, there may have been lots of issues that influenced the way people voted in the referendum, but the question that was on ballot papers was only asking people's opinion on whether we should leave the EU, so the only fact we know about "what people want" is that 52% of people want that. The government has a mandate for that - no more, no less. And a very slim mandate at that. FFS this thread has put me right off my lunch.

YY again Londonista - that's what I was trying to get at upthread. No mandate for these hateful policies.

EastMidsMummy · 05/10/2016 14:31

Awful regressive rhetoric. Either she is evil and doesn't care how reactionary she sounds, or she is stupid and doesn't know. Neither is great in a leader. Name and shame companies with high levels of foreign workers??? What the...???

53rdAndBird · 05/10/2016 14:32

If the OP isn't a Tory central office plant, I'll eat my hat.

Indeed. OTOH, all those Leave campaign astroturfers had to go and work somewhere I suppose Grin

No, I am not impressed with her. I am truly horrified by the xenophobic rhetoric coming out of the Conservatives at the moment, and I am not happy with any Prime Minister who's happy to embrace all the worst elements of UKIP to preserve Tory party unity, no matter what she says she cares about.

Thatsmeinthecorner2016 · 05/10/2016 14:33

"Disgusted by the little Britain mentality and the anti-foreigner rhetoric. It feels like history repeating itself, only here instead of Germany. "

Let's not forget that there was a large contingent of Nazi sympathisers in Britain, including the Royal family.
That Nazi ideas resonating highly with the working class in Britain as well. And that despite knowing how Hitler was dangerous to the world, Britain willingly sacrificed countries such as Czechoslovakia to pander to him.

Realhousewivesofshit · 05/10/2016 14:34

I can see the links with 30s Germany and anti Semitic feelings as I have heard how Jewish Labour Party members have been targeted and bullied so that's correct.

Also yes the mysogynistic vile words of Mc Donald regarding female MPS needing to be lynched are on a par with nazi tactics.

I am quite terrified of the Labour Party hierarchy as they are now.

Very scary. How any feminist could support Corbyn and mc Donald is beyond me.

PageStillNotFound404 · 05/10/2016 14:35

It's hardly surprising, is it, EllyMayClampett?

Let's look at a few of the tasty treats to come out of the conference so far, shall we?

Foreign doctors won't be welcome in the NHS beyond 2025.
Foreign students will be among those clamped down on in tighter immigration rules.
British companies will be required to list their foreign workers.

Hitler didn't ride in with the architects' plans for the gas chambers fully drawn up, you know. It started with measures similar to this. That's not hyperbole, that's history.

NobleKnickerNibbler · 05/10/2016 14:36

Suggesting that companies 'declare' all foreign workers is chilling stuff. Really pandering to the UKIP demographic.

Guitargirl · 05/10/2016 14:38

I am ordinary voter. I am utterly ashamed to be part of this nation - and that goes double since she got up this week and spouted her racist, ungrateful, UKIP-pandering, lowest common denominator, bread and circuses pile of divisive bollocks.

This. 100% this. I actually shed a tear this morning when I saw the headlines in almost every paper this morning. I am worried for the future of my children growing up within the xenophobic, jingoistic, toxic discourse that seems to be overtaking this country.

Thatsmeinthecorner2016 · 05/10/2016 14:38

Suggesting that companies 'declare' all foreign workers is chilling stuff. Really pandering to the UKIP demographic.

They could start calling it "The Yellow Star Lists."

BertrandRussell · 05/10/2016 14:40

"I liked the fact she laughed at Boris"

What, the man she appointed to be Foreign Secretary? Hmm

JellyBelli · 05/10/2016 14:41

''I'm a Labour suppoprter but Gosh! the current PM is doing such a good job! They Really Care what the ordianary voter, such as myself, thinks.''

''ITV's Political Editor Robert Peston made the following comment: "Her rhetoric is more left-wing than Cameron's was, her cabinet is more right-wing than his was.''

''On 4 August 2010 it was reported that May was scrapping the former Labour Government's proposed "go orders" scheme to protect women from domestic violence by banning abusers from the victim's home.''

''In August 2013 May supported the detention of David Miranda, partner of Guardian journalist Glenn Greenwald under the Terrorism Act 2000, saying that critics of the Metropolitan Police action needed to "think about what they are condoning"'.

''July 2010, May proposed ...abolition of the "Anti-Social Behaviour Order" (ASBO). She identified the policy's high level of failure with almost half of ASBOs breached between 2000 and 2008, leading to "fast-track" criminal convictions. May proposed a less punitive, community-based approach to tackling social disorder''

May is a dyed in the wool, anti immigration Tory. Is that what you meant by listening to ordinary people?