to be impressed with Theresa May?

[SunnyInMay]

I'm a traditional Labour voter who feels alienated by the party and Corbyn.

Theresa May really seems like a breath of fresh air in listening to peoples concerns and understanding what matters to ordinary voters.

I know words are easy to say and the proof will be in the action she takes in the years to come but I have a good feeling about her.

Having control over borders and who is allowed to work / live / settle is not xenophobia it's common sense for a sovereign nation which - thank fuck - soon we will be again

Its not be framed like that though has it? It simply foreign workers = bad Brit workers = good.

No it isn't

Unless you want it to read it in that way

As for Brexit, it is seriously not ok for Labour not to discuss it. I have no idea what Labour want out of the negotiations

Well Alan Johnson is convinced John Mcdonnel et al voted LEAVE he said they thought it was a white rich mans club back in the 70's and they still think the same.

He said Corybns speeches were written for him " This is why I am voting remain" Corbyn changed them " this is why the LABOUR party is voting remain.

So your current Labour party is - for Leave too. Which is possibly why they cant discuss Brexit

How's uncontrolled immagration working in Germany

So once Brexit is achieved British workers can expect big pay rises and affordable housing? Because globalisation, the free market and neo liberalism - the great drivers of inequality (along with austerity) are just going to vanish over night?

Yabvvvvvvu

Will she kick Prince Philip out, being foreign born and all that, and not exactly the most productive member of society after his war time service?

"It has been said time and again that migrants are net contributers"

Nonsense, you have to earn £35,000 to be a net contributor in the UK, most immigrants are simply displacing native British from jobs and causing wage depression.

What immigrants do is boost the GDP, that's what all the studys show and people don't understand and assume it's the same thing as being a net contributor, it's not, it simply means there is more economic activity in the country, if you imported 1 million uneducated unemployable migrants the gdp would still go up, do sent mean that they are actually contributing to the economy.

It simply foreign workers = bad Brit workers = good.

^^ well all we have heard for years and years is how lazy Brits are, lazy rubbish workers - which is supposedly why companies have had to employ hard working Eastern Europeans.....companies like - Sports direct.

^^ well all we have heard for years and years is how lazy Brits are, lazy rubbish workers - which is supposedly why companies have had to employ hard working Eastern Europeans.....companies like - Sports direct.

I thought it was the EU hating right wing gutter press peddling that line? I'm sure Mike Ashley will give big pay rises to all the newly employed British staff at the Sports Direct warehouses post Brexit. Milk and honey anyone?

Globalisation causes wage depression. If the UK is rejecting globalisation as part of the Brexit package it is going to have to have deep pockets to resurrect the manufacturing base destroyed by the Tories in the 1980's. Foreign companies will move elsewhere.

I thought it was a leading argument of Remain as to why we desperately needed millions of poor eastern Europeans to come and save us and work hard for us.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/sep/21/bulgaria-uk-migrants-agriculture-benefit-tourism

"UK needs migrant workers 'because locals are lazy', says Bulgaria"

I thought it was the EU hating right wing gutter press peddling that line?

I think you will find the hard left also hate the EU. As I mentioned its farily obvious Corybn was for Leave and Alan Johnson is sure John M et al also voted leave.

I'm sure Mike Ashley will give big pay rises to all the newly employed British staff at the Sports Direct warehouses post Brexit

Maybe he will be forced to yes, as typically Eastern European staff live in lodgings, several to a room run by ruthless landlords, in terrible conditions. They are able to live very cheaply and send money home, where the difference in the value of the money is considerable.

It would be nice to put an end to this moving of people like chattels across the EU for the benefit of sweat shops like Sports Direct. Something i am sure the likes of the hard left will also be very pleased about.

Ah yes in the Brexit land of milk and honey I'm sure the Tories will be advising their donors how to run their companies fairly and ethically.

Yeee "We're overrun with 'em! Nearly all the waiters and the cook at the Grand Hotel where we was working last month is foreigners." "It was a dam ' shame that these people were allowed to take the bread out of English people's mouths: they ought to be driven into the bloody sea."

Sound familiar? Over here, taking our jobs. Above is quote from a book first published in 1914. 102 years on and still the same old bile being spat out.

Would anyone mind taking a minute to explain something to me?

If British lawyers did the lions share of the work coming up with the European Bill of Human rights; why does no one here have any faith that a British Bill of Human Rights can be created by UK lawyers and be a suitable alternative, post Brexit?

What changed?

Justwanttoweeinpeace Becasue the political will has to be there and it isnt. May has a very poor track record on rights. Did you know she reduced the rights of battered women?

''August 2010 it was reported that May was scrapping the former Labour Government's proposed "go orders" scheme to protect women from domestic violence by banning abusers from the victim's home''
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theresa_May

Of course a British Bill of Human Rights could be created and passed.

But it won't.

I think because those lawyers had seen the results of WW2 at first hand - they may even have been there at the liberation of some of the concentration camps, or would have known people who were. As such, they would have been sickened and revolted and vowed to do all in their power to stop it happening again. That generation has now mostly passed away. The current generation of lawyers are unlikely to have seen such horrors, so glibly assume that it can't happen again.

What was she proposing instead of the go orders? Did she scrap them because they weren't enforcable?

Found this link which is interesting;

http://www.parity-uk.org/dvgoo_orders.php

It suggests that go orders were trialed by May, but she scrapped them due to issues with the legality of banning someone from their own home without giving them access to a court hearing first.

I haven't found anything about what they came up with instead yet.

Impressed not quite but certainly relieved she's in charge

I wouldn't trust her as far as I could throw her.

Peregrina.

it worries me that arguably the finest legal minds in the land can't come up with laws to prevent anything that they haven't experienced themselves?

I haven't seen my son hit by a car but I know not to let him loose in a car park.

Having said that, there was an incredibly depressing programme on radio four last week that featured a war historian. Perhaps another poster heard it and can remember her name.

Anyhow this woman believed that a wartime generation and the following generation understands enough about war to be motivated to prevent one. The following (third) generation doesn't.

So perhaps you're right.

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Why not?

Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.

I actually preferred DC and I bloody loathed him