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To be livid with DS?

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Ujjayi · 02/10/2016 00:54

Sorry. This is ranty & long.

DS (16) has a GF (also 16). They have been on a total of 5 dates, the last 2 of which have been at my house. Two weeks ago, whilst supposedly babysitting for younger DS, the 2 of them locked themselves away in his room & had sex. Youngest DS left to his own devices doing lord knows what (he's 12). I was angry when I found out because whilst I appreciate they are both of age, there is a time & a place & DS was supposed to be responsible for younger brother. Also, I feel that at their age, 5 dates is way too few for them to behave as though they have the right to do whatever they like in my home.

We talked it through & I believed DS had understood how irresponsible & disrespectful he had been. We specifically talked about how it isn't ok to be getting on when youngest DS or DH & I are at home. I also said I felt they didn't really know each other yet either & he should think about that before being driven by his hormones.

This evening, GF comes over & DS repeatedly asks me if they can go upstairs. I say no, they can hang out in the den (old playroom now teen-space). DS keeps the door shut & we don't think too much of it as we are literally no more than 5 metres away from them in the kitchen (oh how fucking niaive am I??!!). Then GF appears in hallway, grins at us (we were in the kitchen), grabs handful of tissue from downstairs loo & retreats back to den. DH & I exchange looks of "WTAF" & are rendered speechless. We confront DS after she left & he 'fesses up...not before doing his best Bill Clinton denials.

I am livid. I feel they have both behaved disrespectfully & deliberately gone against my rules. It is my understanding that her parents are very strict & would also be furious to hear this. I actually don't know how to take this forward from here.

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Mybugslife · 02/10/2016 10:47

Thinking back to when I was 16 and sexually active (to be fair I had been with my boyfriend for well over a year before we had sex) I was not allowed to even step foot in my bedroom with him at my house. And any other room we were in the door had to be closed.

His parents were really lenient, probably too much so!

I agree with pp that you should make sure all doors are open, if closed, open them...they'll be embarrassed more than you.

I would also be inclined to set these house rules out clearly in front of the girlfriend. Make sure she knows she is being disrespectful and that you will not have it. She will be mortified and hopefully will think twice about it

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Sancia · 02/10/2016 11:30

Crikey, don't they have any shame? We all sneaked around but the idea was not to get caught, not grin at the parents with a handful of tissue.

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AmberLynne · 02/10/2016 11:50

I don't think shame should come into it Sancia.

Respect, definitely. Shame, not so much.

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Nanny0gg · 02/10/2016 11:56

She actually doesn't sound very nice...

Be prepared for some heartbreak soon.

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paddypants13 · 02/10/2016 12:11

I would be livid op, not about him being sexually active (although I wouldn't be hugely impressed after 5 dated) but at the lack of respect. What if your younger son had walked in on them?

I would also impose a door open rule whilst they're in the house with you and if they defy you again, I would not have her in the house at all.

With regards to bc, could you make an appointment with a family planning agency and offer to drive them to and from the appointment. That way they can get some advice without the gf having to make a gp appointment and make excuses to her parents.

Do not tell her parents about their sexual relationship, she is 16 and it will stop your son from being open with you.

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Ujjayi · 02/10/2016 12:18

NannyOgg my gut feeling is that she is using him to get experience, whilst flirting ourageously with DS's best friend (who is perceived as cooler & bigs himself up as a "playa" Hmm)

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youarenotkiddingme · 02/10/2016 12:22

I think the autism needs taking into account here.
Both from the fact emotionally he's very vunerable and likely not at the age of consent developmentally. Id be worried by the gf behaviour of smirking towards you about her taking advantage. Not blaming her by was it takes too but more questioning your ability to give 'true' consent iyswim?
It also wonder if the autism is the reason he doesn't quite 'get' the social norms or acceptability re having sex near to family members who will hear?

It's great he's so open with you. I think you are going to have to set specific rules - I like the open door one mentioned above.

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GladAllOver · 02/10/2016 12:23

I disagree with not telling her parents.

  1. The embarrassment / trust issues are worth facing if the alternative is to risk an unwanted pregnancy.


  1. Her parents will certainly blame you if it all goes wrong because "it happened under your roof didn't it".
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Ujjayi · 02/10/2016 12:27

PaddyPants that's my point exactly - that any one of us could have walked in on them. As for taking them to a bc appt, I would be happy to but DS telling me in very plain English that it's none of my business & I shouldn't be getting involved.

So I turned the tables: put to him the "what if your DF & I closed sitting room door & started having sex whilst you are sat in the next room" & also prospect of me shagging imaginary new partner in house after just 3-5 dates whilst DS home. He can see that those scenarios are awkward & unacceptable but still adamant it is somehow ok for him & GF to do this Hmm

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Ujjayi · 02/10/2016 12:30

GladAllOver those are the exact points which keep coming up in our conversation too (am feeding back to DH all comments here to give us more perspective). I have no doubt that if they are against her being sexually active then they would blame us for allowing it to happen in our home.

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ItsJustNotRight · 02/10/2016 12:36

I think it's time to embarrass the hell out of them. Next time she comes round shag your partner in the living room and make as much noise as possible.

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lemonzest123 · 02/10/2016 12:37

Does she def know about your rules? I don't mean to accuse your son but I distinctly remember a bf when in was that age telling me anything goes under his roof and his dad was completely cool with it.....it definitely wasn't Confused

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TeacherBob · 02/10/2016 12:57

This is a very tough one

But before jumping on the 'omg ban her from your house' bandwagon, think of this...

They are so desperate and willing to have sex when you are home, that breaking the rules has happened.
So if you ban them from your house, they will still be desperate and willing.

Your house is a safe place. A park bench is not.

By trying to stop it, you could well be ending up with a son knocking up a girl in the local park/woods etc.

So I don't know what you can do, but I feel banning would be a mistake.

(And yes, I have been there and talk from experience)

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FurryLittleTwerp · 02/10/2016 12:58

Was it a hand job or did he pull out? Might be worth mentioning that withdrawal as a method of contraception has an 80% failure rate.

I know they're both "adult enough for sex" but I'd be speaking to her parents, if only to try to protect my DS from becoming a father and myself a grandmother

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HereIAm20 · 02/10/2016 13:20

I am definitely of the "tell her parents brigade."

I would do it on the basis of the I understand they are having intercourse. Can you confirm that you have fully discussed pregnancy and safe sex issues with her?

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Allthewaves · 02/10/2016 13:32

My parents and bf parents had open door policy. We would often have sex upstairs when they were downstairs - against the rules. If your having sex your having sex.

I'd put a lock on his bedroom door. Ask them to lock the door and perhaps put some music on (incase of noise) and let them get on with it.

Id also have a chat with both of them and give them all the local family planing clinics open times

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Amelie10 · 02/10/2016 13:38

They might be 'old enough' Hmmto be having sex, but I'm pretty sure if she falls pregnant they wouldn't be all big and bolshy adults then. They are still little nippers and shouldn't be getting ahead of themselves. Definitely tell her mother, she should know what her daughter is getting up to.

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Allthewaves · 02/10/2016 13:49

And no you shouldn't tell her parents. You don't know consequences. If they throw her out are you happy for her to live in your house?

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schokolade · 02/10/2016 14:30

Well I'd either be talking to her parents or having a pill conversation with her myself. You need to know she knows, one way or the other.

Who cares if it's an embarrassing conversation? Better now than afterwards.

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schokolade · 02/10/2016 14:33

That's all very well allthewaves, but on the other side of the coin is the OP prepared for GF plus baby to move in?

The DS is her responsibility, not the GF.

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Ujjayi · 02/10/2016 14:52

There is absolutely no way GF is moving in if her parents were to find out & throw her out. She is not my responsibility.

I feel more confused now. On the one hand they are of age for sex/consent but on the other DS is still my responsibility until 18.

I just feel sad that I thought we had a good relationship & that I had done all the right things with him. Open talk, nothing off-limits, being enthusiastic when he first met GF etc. And I feel it has been thrown back in my face. He has slagged me off royally to his mates - I can't even begin to share his exact words because they are too painful. Basically making out that I am a controlling bitch & how dare I tell them when & where they can have sex.

Sorry. I'm ranting again.

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schokolade · 02/10/2016 14:54

Rant away, how annoying!!!

If it's facebook make him delete it.

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schokolade · 02/10/2016 14:56

I presume that despite being evil personified you're still good enough to do his washing cooking etc?

Tell him to bog off with that until he learns some manners.

Oooh, raging for you..

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Amelie10 · 02/10/2016 14:57

I'd put a lock on his bedroom door. Ask them to lock the door and perhaps put some music on (incase of noise) and let them get on with it.

What shit advice. So the op should encourage this nonsense. They are bloody children, not big mature adults.

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rainbowstardrops · 02/10/2016 14:59

If he's slating you to all behind your back then I'd be sorely tempted to tell her parents.
I'd want to know if it was my daughter. End of.

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