To be *livid* at this? Attempted murder of man working to make women's sport fairer

[Sporadicus]

So not only did Jeska use their unfair advantage to win medals meant for female athletes, but Jeska then tries to murder the man attemting to restore fairness to women's fell running:

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/transgender-womens-fell-running-champ-8891893

And yet, the BBC decide it's not relevant to the story that Jeska was born male:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-37439875

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The facts of the case will have been agreed as part of the plea. The Crown have set out who was attacked and why and the defendant has accepted that by pleading guilty.

Poor Mr Knibb. I hope he's ok. At least some papers are reporting a fuller story.

Have you seen a charge sheet? They are very brief. The counts are attempted murder, abh and possessing a knife. The crown will have set out the elements of those offences and that's it. The only mental element of the offences is intent. Aggravating factors like motive are left for sentencing.

Cote thanks for that summary, I was struggling to articulate why this made me so mad the other night to a friend, but yes

-Transwomen athletes with higher testosterone and other physical advantages pushing women off the podium

- Transwomen retaining male patterns of violence

To which I'd add transwomen demanding access to women only safe spaces

And transwomen distorting reporting of violent crime by women, which is going to play right into the hands of some MRAs I'm aware of.

Sheesh.

That poor man.
Jesus - to want a man dead over being fair and just.

FUCKING HELL

I did wonder when I saw the photos but none of the reporting that I could find mentioned the full story.

PS YANBU

I read the story on the BBC earlier and had no idea of Jeska's motives until I read this post. It's totally relevant to the story that Jeska is transgender. Sometimes we stick our heads so far up our arses trying to be politically correct that we lose touch with reality.

Is there any reason why a 'responsible journalist' couldn't have reported this:

The Crown Prosecution Service and West Midlands Police both confirmed Jeska was transgender which was a factor in her motive for attacking Mr Knibbs, 51

It doesn't sound like the press are bringing up autism, but the defendants legal team. It was listed for trial but the prosecution have accepted the plea on account of 'new information' about the defendants health which it may mean the sentence is very much reduced.

Nothing to do with the press, they're just reporting it.

I know I'm not BU ... the whole bloody world is BU right now

YANBU.

BBC has an agenda. So does Guardian. We should all complain, especially to BBC with its responsibility, in law, to be accurate and impartial.

Contempt of court not an issue as he had pled guilty.

Idaho, it's being reported now because of the change to guilty pleas at short notice.

There normally is some explanation, I remember that Ian Watkins did the same thing and it was explained he had decided 'not to put everyone through a trial' he knew he was fucked.

Yep - once a case has started you can still be liable for contempt if you repeat information that is already in the public domain. Reporting what one side of the case (the prosecutors) have said about it as objective fact while the case is ongoing is obviously not on. Maybe you could get away with something like "it is expected that the crown will argue that the investigation into her eligibility to compete was a motive." I don't know. But given that the Mirror is reporting differently from other news outlets, I'd imagine that the other outlets are acting on legal advice, and the mirror has simply calculated that profit from the headline would outweigh the risk of any fines or proceedings (this is a judgment call that tabloids often make).

I'm a fell runner, born a woman, still a woman. I've raced against Jeska, though I am nowhere near as good as she is. As far as I'm concerned, I don't mind that she's competing as a transgender individual.

Obviously, I don't remotely condone her subsequent actions, which are shocking. But I find some of the comments on this thread transphobic and hateful. I hope it gets deleted.

I wonder if the investigation will/did continue, and if any other sporting body would dare launch their own now there's a danger to people's ies who question this.

*lives not ies

shovetheholly can I ask if Jeska's results are in the women's competition or is there a separate section?

Genuine question prompted by you saying she competes "as a transgender individual".

Thanks

Actually it's heartening to see that at least one sporting body cares enough about fairness in women's sport to launch such an investigation. It seems no one with any power else gives a damn about this subject.

Idaho, she's pleaded guilty so those restrictions are largely irrelevant now.

shove she's not competing as a transgender individual unless there's a separate competition for transgender individuals. She's competing as a woman. And one of the reasons you're nowhere near as good as her is because of her innate biological advantage.

shove name calling won't make me feel any more comfortable about this.

My apologies, I mistyped (is that a thing?). I mean to say "It doesn't bother me in the slightest that she's competing as a woman". (There are M and F categories, cut by age). It's nice of y'all to be outraged on my behalf about this, but honestly, I personally don't mind. Other runners are, of course, entitled to their own opinion.

I'm sorry you think I'm calling you names, sporadicus. I'm really not. I'm describing your comments as hate-filled and transphobic, because they are.

of course you are nowhere near as good as her. the average time difference between males and females is big, and the entire reason why the two sexes compete separately after puberty but together before.