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To turn up to a party with a younger sibling

155 replies

kittymamma · 18/09/2016 10:10

So, party season is here (all my DD friend's birthday's seem to be this half term!) and we have one this morning, however, it has only just occurred to me that I have DS with me too (8 months old) and no alternative provisions for him to be elsewhere.

Is it socially acceptable to turn up to a child's birthday party with a younger sibling? For my DD party a few months ago, I assumed one parent would (and explained to her how she would get her other two in for free due to age), 1 parent messaged me before hand to ask if it was ok and another just turned up with an older sibling, it wasn't a problem for me as I had catered for adults too and the older siblings joined the adult bunch. But is it ok for me to do this today? I honestly hadn't thought about it until now. It is my childminder's son's party so I'm hoping she will assume that but I didn't think of it until now (party in less than 2 hours).

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Gyderlily · 19/09/2016 19:37

I have to bring both dd to any party! I'm a single parent with no alternative childcare so it's either both or none and often parties are 2 bus rides away! Baby would definitely be ok though, I never expect dd2 to be fed and get a party bag ... Sometimes people offer sometimes not, if it's feasible I'll take the little one out somewhere but not always the case!

Maireadplastic · 19/09/2016 19:40

Just ask. And ask if they need you to stay.

FluffyPineapple · 19/09/2016 20:01

I wouldn't dream of taking any of my other children to a party that only one has received an invite for. I have done my own share of kids parties. If I cater for 20 then 20 is what I have catered for. If I allow one sibling to join the party simply because s/he is a sibling then I would be setting a precedent for all 20 children's siblings to join in. Therefore a party for 20 becomes 40 - or more!

The invitee is the person whose name is on the invite - Not the whole bloody family!

FluffyPineapple · 19/09/2016 20:03

Babies under a year old would be okay - provided the invitee cannot be left without parental supervision for whatever reason

ginger1976 · 19/09/2016 20:15

Omg am having party for DD who turns 5 next month, first proper party she has had (usually just have a get together with baby group friends), had no idea what a minefield it is!!!

pollymere · 19/09/2016 20:20

Baby yes. Anything older, no. It's not fair on the hosts, as you plan so many party bags etc. My dd had a party with six guests, all girls and someone stayed and expected me to entertain a much younger boy sibling. It wasn't fair on my dd as he couldn't keep up and she worried that there wouldn't be enough of everything she'd meticulously planned (she was only four or five!) We also had stuff not suitable for under threes.

minipie · 19/09/2016 20:42

Can I ask what people do if they don't have childcare for other siblings.

Contact the parents hosting, say you don't have anyone who can look after sibling - so is it ok to bring sibling?

Waltermittythesequel · 19/09/2016 20:57

I think contacting the host asking can you bring siblings is just as rude, tbh as you are totally putting them on the spot.

Better to decline the invitation with an explanation why. That way, they can decide whether to extend the invitation or not.

Again, invitations are just that. They are not obligatory. If your child can't make it the world will still turn.

minipie · 19/09/2016 21:05

Hmm see I think saying "DD can't come because I have noone to look after sibling" is putting just as much pressure on hosts to extend an invitation as asking if sibling can come! In fact I'd probably interpret it as a PA way of asking if sibling can come - but maybe I read too much MN Grin

VJM123 · 19/09/2016 21:10

..... My twins are in year 2 ... No drop and runs here by anyone. I don't see that it's the hosts job to look after your child - especially as they can be monsters!!!

Waltermittythesequel · 19/09/2016 21:14

I suppose it depends on how you phrase it mini.

I would just say something like "thanks for the invitation for Johnny. Unfortunately I can't get a sitter for the day. Thanks anyway. Hope Jane has a great party."

I don't think that's PA at all. Simply stating facts.

Floey · 19/09/2016 21:18

My god are babysitters extinct?

Daydream007 · 19/09/2016 21:34

Totally acceptable so don't worry! I've done it for every party that my eldest attended as I had no other choice and nobody minded!

Tapandgo · 19/09/2016 21:39

Runs - tell us this is a joke...

Gyderlily · 19/09/2016 21:56

I honestly don't see a problem ... 9 out of 10 times party is somewhere lick soft play so I pay for dd2 to play, sit on a different table and get her something to eat! Ones in a hall etc weather/location dependant I'd take her to the park but on other occasions have sat with dd2 along with other parents brought own snacks and never ever have expected a party bag or anything else to be provided. They aren't attending the party any more than the waiting parents! And no I don't have a spare £30 odd to pay a babysitter.. DD1 can be invited to more than one party per weekend at some times of year (once it was 4 Shock)

Waltermittythesequel · 19/09/2016 22:13

But why not just drop her?

There's no reason to stay.

Goodgriefisitginfizzoclock · 19/09/2016 22:17

This thread brings back memories. DD2 has a friend that for a couple of years probably the 6/7/8 parties had a friend who's mum always came with her younger brother who was 2 years younger . We ALL commented on it, wouldn't have minded a baby but it was awkward to not let him join in eat food etc or you felt mean. Resented being put in that position tbh, she could have dropped and run, but no. Thankfully now a teenager so not a problem. Wonder if friend still has to take brother with her now!

Sunnysas · 19/09/2016 22:17

As I know the family set up of the kids I'm inviting I can make an educated guess about who may bring a sibling. Normally I would just text or grab them at school pickup and say either fine to bring the sibling or offer to pick up/ take home the child if I thought having too many extras would make it difficult. Obviously depends on the sort of party. No problem either if siblings come as spectators for more adventurous parties like a ski slope or go ape for example. Certainly wouldn't find Runs a problem! Juggling kids can be difficult - I rarely have childcare so don't expect others to either. We all do what we have to to get through the day. Muck in and help each other out.

Sunnysas · 19/09/2016 22:21

Drop and run doesn't always work if party takes a bit of travelling. Also sometimes nice for parents to have a catch up. A good excuse. Other times party parents have wanted to watch their Ds snowboarding or whatever esp if they normally work full time. I try to go with the flow!

WanderingStar1 · 19/09/2016 22:26

I agree with Italian. It's not such a big deal, surely most people would be easy whatever happens? Round our way most parents stay for the first year or two of primary school then D&R when they feel comfortable. Often people take siblings if it's a house party or hall etc - usually with prior 'mention' but I can't imagine it's a massive problem without. I've often given a spare party bag to a sibling if there was one - but if not I just say sorry - have a bit of cake. If I know of a younger sibling I always invite them (we do house/garden parties for my two but now they're 8 I suspect they'll want more select trips for a few friends in future). On the other side of the coin - I've had my son invite himself to a party where my daughter was the original invitee - that was awkward! He assured me the birthday girl said he could go - so I had to bite the bullet and explain to her Mum what was going on and ask whether he really could go or explain that if not, I totally understood Blush! Luckily she was lovely and said he was welcome to come and there would be a couple of other boys there - and in fact he had a ball! These things could be a minefield so I think you just have to go with the flow (except for things like the horse riding example Shock).

WanderingStar1 · 19/09/2016 22:28

Should have said - my DS has ASD and doesn't understand social stuff - I wasn't being a pathetic Mum by not just telling him he couldn't go to the party......Smile

Munchingmummy · 19/09/2016 22:30

For my DS bday an extra sibling turned up and expected stole a party bag! It meant that i did not have enough for a child who was invited. I would not have minded had I received a text asking, I wouldn't have said no. It's annoying when people assume that it's ok.

I don't understand why everyone thinks it's OK if it's soft play, I guess I'm thinking of a couple of popular soft play areas near me and they aren't massive, so it wouldn't always be an option. I think one of them only takes 20/30children - that's a class size.

Sunnysas · 19/09/2016 22:31

*My god are babysitters extinct?

Yes - they are for me Floey and for a lot of other parents too. I don't live near family and although friends can help I try and save them for more important things like parents evenings etc. I also don't want to put on a friend during the weekend when they could be having rare family time!

There is little emphathy on mumsnet!

Floggingmolly · 19/09/2016 22:36

Taking unexpected siblings to a house party is really off, actually. Most houses have a limited capacity (obviously) and you have no idea how many (actual invited) guests are going to be there.
Again; what if everyone did it? I'd be pissed off if I'd invited 20 kids and I actually ended up hosting 35.
Space, food and party bags are not infinitely elastic.

Italiangreyhound · 19/09/2016 23:25

Maireadplastic Re "Just ask. And ask if they need you to stay." Great answer, so sensible.

Fluffy re "If I allow one sibling to join the party simply because s/he is a sibling then I would be setting a precedent for all 20 children's siblings to join in. Therefore a party for 20 becomes 40 - or more!" I doubt if all 20 kids would each have a sibling, let alone want them to attend!

Waltermittythesequel Re "Better to decline the invitation with an explanation why. That way, they can decide whether to extend the invitation or not." This sounds like a terrible idea, it has all the 'emotional blackmail' element along with a 'party decline' to an invitation. It seems really unfair to the child who was invited. Children do know quite early on who is invited, who is coming to their party etc. I've known a friend fall out over a party invite or rather a child saying 'You are not coming to my party.' The mum might say so-and-so can't come and that could put a dampener on the friendship. WHICH is so much more vital than a bloody party invite.

The birthday child may not be able to understand the finer points of 'so-and-so's mum felt worried my mum would be put out' and the invited child would most likely think my "Mum is a meddling in my friendships, grrrrr!"

Floey re "My god are babysitters extinct?" Not everyone has people who will look after their kids for free. How much could it cost to have someone look after your child or children so one can attend a party? Some babysitters might charge £5 an hour. My dd went to quite a lot of parties when she was younger, if we had had younger children I would not have been able to afford babysitters for these. As I said before I've got a husband who doesn't work weekends but not everyone does, some parent alone and they cannot just find someone to look after their child.

Waltermittythesequel Re "But why not just drop her? There's no reason to stay." My dd did not stay at parties until she was at least 7 or 8, she was quite shy, has autistic tendencies and would have found it very hard for me to drop and run! Our son is adopted and and quite emotional - and at 6, now, we would not leave him at a party. In fact when he had his party for age 6, and many of the other kids are older then him, still a number of mums stayed with younger sibs.

I said I was off but I had to come back when I read someone call children's parties a 'minefield'. It is not a minefield (unless you let it be). It is a chance to celebrate your child's birthday with their friends. This may mean you end up feeding a child who has had no choice but to come because their sibling has been invited and their mum or dad wisely, in my mind, chose to bring the invited child along even if sib had to come too.

Of course telling the party host, or asking, is best but please stop over thinking this, demonizing the person who brings a sibling (some borderline bullying comments for run who was just being open about what they do). And some generally most uncharitable comments about a child's party!

Having known many kids who struggle to make friends I am literally gobsmacked so many parents are willing to over-think such a simple thing as a child's party. Please just be glad you can afford to give you child a party and most of all that they have friends to invite.

I think a large dollop of generosity is needed with the birthday cake. Grin