WIBU to never go on family holiday again?

[MamaDuckling]

Loooong story but I'll try to keep it brief.

My family and I (10 in total, all adults except our two young DC) have for a long time done an annual villa holiday. This year I suggested that DH, DC and I would get a separate villa close to theirs as our DS is a very noisy early riser, and DD doesn't sleep through yet. My family LOVE to lie in and I foresaw problems with the kids spoiling everyone's rest. This suggestion was quickly dismissed, they all insisted they wanted us all to be together and of course understood that two young kids come with some noise.....

Fast forward and we are 4 days in, we have today been relegated to the crappy room on the ground floor (all of us, despite there being a more suitable separate room for 2yr old DS upstairs), because the noise is too much. We have done everything we can to keep him quiet but he's up at 6am and my family don't typically want to wake up until at least 10am (lazy arses IMO but I respect that we are all different).

It all came to a head this morning and I fell out with DB over it (himself expecting his first DC, ha!). He suggested we all decant into this one room. I have DD in travel cot next to me, DS on a mattress at the end of the bed, and snoring DH by my side. I am simply fucked off beyond belief.

WIBU to never do a stupid family holiday ever again based on our experience this time? I now just feel like we are a nuisance to everyone and wish we hadn't come at all.

Contact the Daily Mail.

"Kids Wake Early"

Don't most salient adults realise that?

Seriously why have they taken your rooms? You have paid as well and warned them...db can have the small crappy room...not surprised your dh is pissed off.

If it was the other way round people would be saying you had dh problem for not standing up for your family. My ds was an early riser ....6am was a lie in at that edge and he was awake.... Think the suggestion that you and dh split the rooms and children is possibly the best then you can take it turns....
Don't do all the driving either you're probably too tired.... for you

Nonno - only if parents are stupid enough to be dictated to by the child. You're the parent, set the rules and stick to them. We have always refused to let our kids get up before 7am, even as tiny babies, it's night time, no one will talk to you, whispered tones, back to bed. They get it, if you teach them.

Visit local hotels or apartment complexes.

Peak season is over now and schools are back so you might find availability. If you can escape the clutches of your brother and the rest then you might even enjoy the rest of the holiday, just you, DH and the kids doing your own thing.

inlove, the OP has already said she's suffering with a bit of PND. It sounds like she's surrounded by enough sanctimonious know-it-alls without you joining in as well.

I'd just remind them that it was them that insisted you go and stay in the villa and that they didn't mind the noise, even when you told them how bad it would be. And then let them make even more noise for that morning at least to show them how bad it could be and how you are already containing it as best as possible.

And every time anybody tries to give you grief just do the broken record technique of 'this is what YOU wanted, not me. And you're ruining our holiday too'.

I would just leave. It's not in for him to call you names like that and you're not exactly getting what you paid for anyway. Are you enjoying this holiday at all?

(Not in = not on)

I don't think having pnd is relevant to the parenting decisions being made. Lots of you think it's perfectly acceptable for your kids to wake others with impunity. It isn't. I'm with the family on that.

Is there anything more fun than sanctimonious parents? I know people with children who were taught to lie in. Their children are easier than mine. They admit and and one always says that work twice as hard as her.

Children are different. Mine thought 5am was daytime and no, couldn't be taught different. Unless you also think children can be taught not to be shy or anxious. Because my confident child was 'taught' that by me.

You don't even have a bedroom with a bed? And your expected to drive everyone round? Sounds like hell on earth! It's your holiday too, if you can't have a bedroom I would be going home asap!!! And telling your selfish family why!!!

Your db could easily get a sleeper. I have a friend whose three year old sleeps from 7 til 8.30am and has to be woken up.

I managed to keep ds reasonably quiet in the mornings and banned any screens before 5 pm for years, and it was fairly fecking miserable tbh.

Inlove, that's 7am. Great. The op's family want her dc asleep till 10am, in a strange environment with their grandparents etc around.

inlovewithhubby you can speak in hushed tones to my kids all you want at 6am but they'll probably reply with a song, a bed bounce and a 'CAN I HAVE COCO POPS FOR BREAKFAST? CAN I?'

I don't know how you 'teach' a baby to sleep in? By letting it cry itself back to sleep? Not in my house.

I really feel for you. People who have not had children have absolutely no idea, and, in my experience at least, many people who have had children forget the realities. I have some bad memories of holidays with my parents when my dd was little and my DM complaining about any noise or mess made by dd. It makes me so angry to remember.

This is your holiday.
Move into a hotel. Stop ferrying people about.
Its your children's holiday, too, they should have the opportunity to enjoy themselves.
I think you've outgrown family holidays.

I'm getting angry as I think of this. What right do your family have to dictate that you, your DH and your children should be miserable on holiday for their convenience? Grow a pair and get out of there.

One of my kids slept. The other didn't. It's a crap shoot; we parented the same.

Did you miss that her DBro was still horrible to her about an 8am wake up? And that they are all in one room so "nobody is listening to you" is a smudge unrealistic?

I don't think having pnd is relevant to the parenting decisions being made.

What an ignorant post.

But even if the Op had taught her kids to be quiet in the mornings - that's quiet in bed till 6 and maybe quietly (not screaming but talking) up, having breakfast etc till about 8 - and then no more need to be quiet as its daytime. Its the children's holiday too! if you go on holiday with small children you expect to be up earlier. Common sense.

Op I suggest you take up singing. At 5am, good and loud.

If DM has taken your room can't you take her old room? I'm assuming not, or you would have done it, but if you all want to be on the same floor then I think you need to sit everyone down and try to work out a new configuration. Short term pain as opposed to long term never speaking to your family again.

Can you at least get one of your parents on your side. Surely they don't want to see you having such an awful time.

What exactly do you do if your baby decides to ignore all your whispering and screams its head off because they think it's time to get up?

Having just been on a family holiday with lots of young children, it wouldn't have occurred to me to think that it was going to be quiet until 10am. You kind of expect a certain amount of noise and the odd tantrum or bit of crying.

I think you need to stand your ground a bit more. You must be going mad with all 4 of you in one room! It's your holiday too. Ask for the rooms to change round again. They need earplugs and a should give bit of empathy, not criticism. I hate all of them on your behalf. Your brother is so going to eat his words!

Next year insist on your own villa, and hope that DB's offspring is the baby from hell - sit back and gloat - he he (as DB and DSiL and DP's have early mornings too)

i went on holiay with my dsis and niece an nephew

yes they get up early yes theyre noisy so what u cant choose to go on hol in one place then moan about it

tell em to get lost