To think Corbyn has been exposed as a liar

[JonathanDunn]

He lied about the train. Aibu to think this is a show of character

Thank you caroldecker , that"s what I was referring to.

poodles - if you are addressing a post to me, I'd rather you tone down your bile and refrain from telling me what I do and what I think. If not, I would rather not engage with you. Thank you.

I have no idea how anyone could say Corbyn didn't lie. A train was apparently ram-packed with no seats he could use, so he sprawled all over the floor taking up loads of room and getting in the way of people going to the loo, but apparently his real beef was that there weren't 2 seats together, or at least he couldn't find them. Yeah, he told the truth, or whatever the truth is meant to be in post-truth politics.

McDonnell's ranting about Branson is beyond pathetic. If he'd waited a few weeks to demand Branson lose his knighthood for being offshore, everyone might have forgotten traingate. As it is, McDonnell is clearly pissed off because Corbyn has been shown to be the liar he is. I used to defend Corbyn - I am now actually embarrassed to be an LP member.

The way it's going Corbyn could drown kittens on live TV and his supporters would look into any angle possible that would hint at a right wing /blairite smear.

The incident would have been forgotten by now if they wasn't trying to flog a dead horse, and McDonell proves himself to be the nasty piece of work he is.

I would love to see any lawyer try and argue the point around data protection when him and his team purposely filmed themselves on the same train.

I don't even think Branson is a nice guy, but this apparent 'threat to democracy' so he released footage, is just cult like

The way it's going Corbyn could drown kittens on live TV and his supporters would look into any angle possible that would hint at a right wing /blairite smear.

I can hear it now. Those fucking Blairite kittens would deserve it - I'm sure deselection would be too good for them .

It really is getting beyond a joke, isn't it?

Oh do one, its not a "lie" its an attempt to gain PR, they fudged the truth, it wasn't an out and out lie.

Just like Cameron biking to work, not anywhere near as on the same scale as the lies told by Boris or Fox.

Tone down MY bile? So the accusation ‘they run a cult on the side and their disciples lap up all the idiocies they come up with?’ isn’t bile? I think this is called being a ‘cry bully’; suggest you don’t dish it out if you have to point the finger and play the victim when someone responds in kind.

Fudging the truth IS lying! And yes, Johnson and Fox are also liars but so what? It doesn't make Corbyn any better. Whataboutism isn't an argument.

Brainwashed and aggressive, nevermind the rights and wrongs. A fascinating study.

I find a lot of Corbyn fans treat any criticism of him as though it's personally directly towards them, which is rather odd.

Sorry if this has already been said as I haven't rtft. But lying (or not) about sitting on a train floor surely pales into insignificance beside the monumental and life changing lies others politicians have uttered (remember the £350m for the NHS anyone?) And I say this as someone who believes he should step aside and give the Labour Party a chance of a future in the political landscape. I am no fan. But the right wing media love nothing more than getting their readers' knickers in a knot over something trivial a Labour leader has apparently done.

Little lion - perhaps it's because Corbyn and McDonnell's usp is meant to be their honesty, integrity and general 'holier than thou' approach? It's ok for them to threaten the very existence of the Labour Party so long as they stick to their principles . Well guess what, they lie just like the rest of them.

Fudging the truth

Mmm not really a different type of politics is it

It is not only Corbyn supporters that can't deal with any criticism it is Corbyn himself

Can't wait to see him on Question Time or other programmes where he is not surround by cheering followers that hang on his every word and he has to answer questions rather than just make simple crowd pleasing statements

I feel a little more optimistic now that the party won't have to split and he shall be returned to the back bench within the next two years

If he couldn’t deal with criticism he would have quit a year ago, would he not. As one of his supporters, if I couldn't deal with criticism I'd have quit before that.

On the one hand Corbyn is savaged for days for (alleged) dishonesty over how many empty seats were available on a train, while on the other hand Richard Branson is defended with an airy ‘does anyone care if a few rules are broken’ apologia for actual lawbreaking.

Either Virgin were unaware that using the images was unlawful, or they decided the law was unimportant if leaking them served their own business interests in the short and long term. So either incompetence or criminality. But hey it’s ok – no one cares about incompetence or criminality so long as it (appears to) land Corbyn in the shit.

If the only thing that matters is profit, and if the law gets in the way of discrediting a politician who threatens the establishment’s vested interests, well that’s just fine – ‘who cares if a few rules are broken’?! Never mind what’s good for the little people, be it on trains, in hospitals, at work, in life itself - we’re just a source of profit at the end of the day and anyone dares to disagree, anyone who actually threatens to CHANGE this must be stopped.

If he couldn’t deal with criticism he would have quit a year ago

And give up the salary, the rallies? The pension is a lot better than most, but he has been a difficult back bencher for decades - why stop now when it is so much more fun?

For him and McDonnell this is just business as usual, just on a bigger stage.

But Richard Branson doesn't sell himself as an honest, principled, man to whom truth is all important, Jeremy Corbyn does.

The Tory establishment love Corbyn. If they really wanted to get rid of him they would be concentrating on his questionable defence policy, and appearances on 'Press TV'.

However, from the Tory's point of view he is the perfect labour leader - divisive and generally unpopular, but apparently impossible for his labour opponents to shift.

Oywith What law has Virgin broken? Not the data protection act - ICO guidance states: Judgements about disclosure should be made by the organisation operating the surveillance system.

Oh come on, fox, is that the best you can come up with? First of all you can't see how he lied at all, then "it was only a bit of a lie" and now, "well other people tell worse lies."

He didn't.

Let's wait and see Corbyn on programmes where he is questioned by journalists over his actions during the referendum, traingate, his i'm not wealthy comments and a number of other issues that have arisen in the last few months

He struggles to deal with direct calling out on his actions he is not above this it's to be expected

No on the whole the public are not bothered when a rule is broken to show a politician being economical with the truth what is more important ?

No one is saying he is an awful man because he sat on the floor to spin a story what most people are seeing is that he is no different to many other politicians and his different type of politics is well only different when it suits

Nasty Mr Corbyn.

Let's just stick with the pig-fuckers, eh?

Can you not put up a better argument than that ?

He wasn't being honest and he got caught

It wouldn't have been quite so bad if he wasn't preaching to others about how he shall do politics differently

So that's it. A statement about overcrowding on trains (have you ever been on one?) exaggerated or otherwise, and he's 'untrustworthy'. Seriously?

He hasn't pocketed thousands in expenses. He hasn't lied about the state of the NHS, or our schools. The media will shoot him down at every opportunity. Why? He's not even the official opposition yet.

He won't make it to the 2020 election. He'll be another left wing 'casualty'. Another John Smith or Robin Cook.

Show me an honest politician and I'll show you a coffin

He hasn't pocketed thousands in expenses. He hasn't lied about the state of the NHS, or our schools. The media will shoot him down at every opportunity. Why? He's not even the official opposition yet.

He hasn't had a chance to say anything about the NHS or schools safely on the back benches. Most people didn't know who on earth he was a year ago. There was no 'Corbyn for labour leader campaign' 2 years ago. He was an unnoticed career MP, happily able to appear on Iranian propaganda channels and celebrate some of the world's less liberal regimes in peace.

You might think the Tory party are 'pig fuckers' (although I'm not sure what that has to do with Theresa May), but they really, really don't want Corbyn to lose.

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