That having a bikini wax shouldn't be a necessary part of any job?

[ThatsWotSheSaid]

I've been watching the amazing gymnastics at the olympics and every time I can't help but wonder if they are all happy to have such revealing gym costumes. I would hate to have a camera doing a slow mo when I'm legs akimbo in the air wearing so little even if the camera angles seem to be discrete.

I have tried to look up if there is a rule about the cut and if they wanted could they wear little shorts but I can't find anything. I did read if they remove a wedgie they get marked down?!

AIBU to think that in this day and age it seems a bit odd that these elite athletes need to be so scantily clad and that they probably have more to worry about than waxing, ingrowing hairs and itchiness in the run up to the games?

Oh?

No. VBMum accused me of being bloody thick enough to sneer about department stores, and tried to work in a claim I was disablist. I have a fucking disability, ffs, and VBMum is trying to claim I'm picking on her daughter for what, being disabled?

There are an array of human rights that have been described by philosophers, but the right to be grievously offensive without the target actually being offended and saying something back is not one.

Tbh I wouldn't worry too much about what VBmum says. .. She is struggling as much as MrsLion to follow any argument. All that she seems to understand is 'people are criticising some sports kit; my daughter plays sport; they are slagging off my daughter'. FFS.

Who's been making things up, Bertrand?

Do give it a rest, Tara. Your comments have been childish and petty. I've reported it for MN to have a look over.

merchant I think the same could be said for you to be fair. Some on here seem to be struggling with the idea that sports kit they deem to revealing is actually comfortable and practical for the sports involved.

meck that's slightly pathetic.

Have at it.

felascloak

No. You see, we get that lots (even lots and lots and lots) of people might LOVE the kit. And that they should get to choose to wear it.

What we're saying is what about those who hate it? Can they choose something rather different?

No. They can't.

merchant I think the same could be said for you to be fair.

probably

Sorry, did you have a point, meck?

I'm sorry, which sport are you 'debating' now, Merchant?

"Some on here seem to be struggling with the idea that sports kit they deem to revealing is actually comfortable and practical for the sports involved.".

No. They aren't. What some people are struggling with is that it is not a free choice to say ton young woman "Here is your competition leotard. It is cut high at the legs, but it is entirely up to you if you want to wax your pubic hair or not. The sport does not rule on pubic hair" Because given the "choice" between waxing and having a close up of your pubic hair on Twitter the next day, I know what absolutely every woman I know would "choose".

To sum up:

Our argument: if women are uncomfortable in v skimpy revealing outfits for high-level sports, they should be free to adapt these to accommodate their preferences. This could include covering hair that they would rather not remove, if they do not feel like having to display this and coping with the resultant media circus.

The opposing argument: the outfits are FINE. We are certain that EVERYONE who could ever want to compete in gym/volleyball/any sport involving v skimpy outfits specifically for women will also like them so there is no need to think about this issue EVER.

Btw it makes no difference which sports are under discussion meck - same argument applies

What level of competition are you talking about there, Bertrand?

It doesn't matter what level. But this thread is about the olympics, I think.

Why are you being so obtuse, meck? Our arguments aren't limited to one sport on one day.

it is more though "here is your team leo, you can wear skin tone matching footless tights of your choice with it if you want"

As for the "We are saying some may dislike it. Some. Because some - even one - is significant. "

No matter what society attitudes we have, no matter what choices are offered there is going to always be one or more people who don't like it. There are going to be some who would rather play in the nude.

I have been following the thread for what seems like ever and I propose a new sport of banging ones head repeatedly against a brick wall. The uniform is optional. Public hair is at the discretion of the competitor.
P's please keep it polite; it is so unfeminine to wrangle in public.

There is also the message being sent to girls that it is fine to be fit and strong and confident and skillful and successful- so long as you conform to an image of hairless, painted femininity. But this bit in particular seems to make people super-cross.

In this context I will leave it as "public hair"

*btw? it makes no difference which sports are under discussion meck - same argument applies

It isn't just girls, you really think that if some cameraman zoomed in on a male diver and saw a big fluffy bush escaping the speedos that no-one would comment one iota? Our culture and most around the world see pubic hair as an element of the genitals and expect that people keep it hidden in public, male or female.

Yes - it's strange how many people get so cross when someone else goes 'hang on, could this be a little bit sexist/unhelpful to images of girls? '

All of a sudden you get an angry mob shouting 'No, it's all FINE. Stop your offensive concern for young impressionable girls! Grrrr.'