To think that Prince George isn't all that.

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I mean, he's cute and all- as much as any of our three year olds undoubtedly are. But it pisses me off when everyone fawns over him because he's supposedly sooooooo delicious and gorgeous when, actually, if he was flicking garlic bread at you from the next table at pizza express, he'd be as uncharming as anyone else's kid in the same scenario.

Nothing against him personally- I'm sure he is great. Just not any more or less great than anyone else's pre schooler.

What children in Britain come from backgrounds so poor that their parents cannot afford to give them vaguely nutritious food?

None.

I'm standing by "the nation's grandson" actually. Like Blue Peter has animals to give children who can't have pets of their own a sense of vicarious ownership, I reckon that all these Prince George pull out full colour photo supplements in the Daily Express are filling an emotional need in some people - much like the soaps fill a need for gossip amongst people who don't have large and complicated families to bitch about. The Royal Family are "ours" in a variety of complicated ways.

A republic has many issues but it doesn't seduce into a satrapal sycophantic relationship with one's country leaders in civilised countries. I am happy I live in a republic the president of which has the nation's respect through his deeds and words and not some outdated tradition of kow-towing to a small group of overprivileged inbreds living from their subjects' taxes who have never had a proper job in their life.

You're quite wrong about that Alis.

Probably because you're assuming that our 'welfare safety net' is free of holes, functions smoothly and is available to all?

What children in Britain come from backgrounds so poor that their parents cannot afford to give them vaguely nutritious food? None

Ummmm, maybe we shouldn't got there. There are hundreds of thousands of children living in serious poverty, many of whom do not get to eat three meals a day and certainly do not get nutritious food. Whether they can technically afford a carrot or some apples is another debate, but there are many, many parents who feed their kids absolute crap, often due to a combination of poverty and a lack of education.

goodbyestranger I agree it's incredibly presumptuous to assume the monarchy will survive in its current form, if at all by the time Prince George gets there.

I think it's fine to say he's cute. He's 3 and is quite cute. What I don't like is all the 'oh he's so much more advanced than all the other toddlers in his playgroup/hes so clever' business. He's an ordinary toddler. He will be good at some things and not so good at others. The chances of him being a child genius when you look at his family history is unlikely!

I have seen it with my own eyes Ali and I've also seen the difference it makes yo their skin, eyes, weight, behaviour, all sorts. Believe me you're a lot cuter with your five a day

I'm not saying there are no parents who feed their children poorly but the number who are the children of parents who cannot afford anything containing vitamins of any sort as referenced in the post I was responding to, are really rather rare.

I really dislike when people refuse to accept that children live in poverty.

Remember that BBC program 'Poor Kids'? The children in one family had a swig of milk out of the fridge for lunch and a pasty for dinner. Every single day.

I didn't deny a minority of children live in poverty.

In some areas of the U.K. It is not a minority.

I didn't deny a minority of children live in poverty

Yes you did, you said 'none'. It's not an insignificant minority and we are talking about kids who do not eat regular meals because of it. Plus the vast numbers whose parents can't/won't feed them nutritious food.

Nation wide,it is a minority. Unless you're now arguing that the UK is a third world country?

I can well imagine which areas it is not a minority figure in, the South Wales Valleys etc.

I know people who live in relative poverty and they do still manage to feed their children food of nutritious value

Right fine, I misspoke (mistyped?) wrt to child poverty, I hold my hands up to that thisis

raisedbyguineapigs thanks for seconding that :). The obscenity of the Middleton family spending on trashy holidays and endless fashion items won't help preserve the monarchy. Love the fact that Pippa may be helping the demise by making Spencer Matthews her bro-in-law, with all his shagging about and habits etc etc. This can only end well. I think dim old William has done the country a great favour by marrying the possibly even dimmer Kate.

Why the obsession with what's goady and what's not? It's all over mn, goady fucker this, goady fucker that. Get over it, it's a fucking forum, people are allowed to say controversial things and it provokes debate. Get past the bit you don't like the look of and respond the the question.

No, OP, you are not BU. He's just another child among millions and the fawning is disproportional to his averageness.

The obscenity of the Middleton family spending on trashy holidays and endless fashion items

That's funny. Someone should have sent the Middletons the class/caste rules according to the middle class.

What amuses me it how people who hate the royal family seem just as invested in and knowledgeable about them as the ones waving flags outside the weddings.

I honestly can't believe that a bunch of adults are arguing over if a child is cuter than another child, amongst other things, no wonder bullying is rife all over the world and kids are committing sucide!

What makes you think I'm middle class?!

Also, I read stuff and see stuff and listen to stuff. Information is available to all of us, whatever our view. Reading and watching and listening doesn't mean I'm 'invested'. I find the whole shower quite amusing and I certainly look down on most of the younger ones yes. But 'invested', no.

JamieFraser that was quite a leap - pretty out of order too.

'What amuses me it how people who hate the royal family seem just as invested in and knowledgeable about them as the ones waving flags outside the weddings.'

Not me, I know f all about them. Couldn't have even told you how old George and Charlotte are til I read this thread.

JamieFraser - get a grip. The thread is not about whether or not Geirge is cute or nit ffs.

Is it, my local town 2 sisters have died within 2 weeks of each other by committing sucide, one sister died leaving a note former brother and sister because apparently her peers thought she was ugly, her ugliness was she had sticky out ears and a big nose... Her parents had been into the school and the school did nothing... They found their daughter dead! Her sister found her and her pain was too much and she chose to be with her sister.

there brother and parents lives are currently a mess.

Some are commenting on attractiveness, cuteness, lifestyle etc... People die of being too thin and fat, die because they "needed" cosmetic surgery, end their lives because of these issues that have affected them personally!

A 3 year old child is just an innocent baby but yet we have people on here slating him for his looks and the family he was born into, it's absurd really.

It's not quite a leap, it's disgusting that adults are mocking a child and judging him by the family he was born into!

Words and actions hurt, it's not a leap to know and see many people have ended their lives due to the behaviours of others.

adults doing this is absurd!!!

JamieFraser it most certainly is a leap and hugely disrespectful of the feelings of anyone who has experienced the tragedy of child suicide. Stop right now.

Jamie honestly that is such a huge and irrational leap.

Nobody is 'bullying' a 3 year old (who presumably doesn't read MN).

Nor are toddlers being compared.

All OP was saying was that the prince in question would have to be an historically stunning toddler to warrant the hyperbolic praise his appearance attracts in large quantities.

how do you know I haven't experienced child suicide?

In your opinion it's a huge leap, for me it is not! We have to agree to disagree.

I've never once said a 3 year old was being bullied, I have stated a 3 year old is being judged upon his appearance by adults.

Children lead by there parents examples.