AIBU to think that this lady has lost her mind ...

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South Kiosk at Martello Park Felixstowe out this status up on Facebook earlier today:

"Can we make ourselves perfectly clear to all parents who are too scared to disipline their children about tantrum screaming. We will give you five lenient minutes to ask the child to stop screaming and then we will ask the child ourselves. If that means you too having a tantrum about our having to speak to your child and hurling threats about not returning – that's really okay with us. We have a duty of care to the rest of our customers."

Cue hundreds of people flaming them on Facebook and 1* reviewing the business.

What on earth were they thinking?

I'd like to know how she expected to stop the child from screaming by grabbing her arm! The best response to a tantrum ime is to ignore it. If you can, you remove the child, but if not, you just have to wait it out. It's horrible when people around you are unsupportive, when they can see you are having a hard time. Do they think you could stop it, but just don't because you are enjoying it?? Jeez.

She has removed the original post. Surprise surprise.

Her defence is shit aswell.

It's been screenshot all over the place though, under her new back tracking post on FB.

There's no escape on social media is there!

Nope.

Post something stupid controversial and it will come back and bite you in the arse at some point

My 1yo ds recently had an almighty screaming fit on the train home because he was over tired and had threw his dummy away. He screamed for a good 40mins and when i went to change him i could barely look the passengers in the eye as i was thinking shit ive disrupted your journey home but the conductor said not to worry these things cant be helped. Next time he walked down the train ds was fast asleep. I was so relieved

I'm sorry ...I can't get past the picture of the scones...

Give it a couple of weeks when the dust dies and she will be trading as normal again.

Hopefully she learns her lesson

Meh. You can get scones anywhere. Good service though... That's what really matters. That's what keeps me going back to places!

Really don't think you should be in the business of selling ice creams if you can't handle a 2 year old screaming.
Ignoring bad behaviour is actually a recognised behavioural strategy that many take on board. Ignore the behaviour that they want to gain attention for and they will eventually stop.
The parents tried to discipline her. What else was she to do - stick gaffer tape over her mouth?

To be honest, are parents really going to walk past and not get an ice cream because of the posts? Most business is not planned passing trade, will it be effected? I'm not convinced it will that much.

Very daft posts though.

Are people still saying "paddy" for tantrum? Ffs!

personally, i (mostly) dont mind other peoples children having a noisy moment (so long as i can see the parent actively trying to deal with it, either by talking or ignoring.. or anything) as i feel relieved its not one of mine

having a ds with aspergers, who as a younger toddler would have loud tantrums, we used to remove him from the location (ie restaurants) which i know is not always possible ofc, but the amount of meals that ended a lot earlier than we wanted them too...!

but i would not have been impressed with 'help' from the kiosk owner - you have to wonder why she did get involved? surely there have been children behaving like this before??

Mummy - on a bright sunny day, their trade will be mainly passing.

However when the weather turns, or in spring/Autumn I think they will find they are boycotted.

I would be furious if someone grabbed my child like this, and it is assault.

Oh and I think anyone can have a meltdown - it's just that people with ASD are operating at a so much higher background level of sensory overload that it takes far far far less to trigger.
At 2 a child could be diagnosed, or might not and still have an SN. However any child can have a tantrum and it's often best to ignore them.

On the upside though, this debacle has reminded me to post a review of a local place round here that went the extra mile to make me and DS feel welcome and happy. So that's good, at least?

A very good lesson in when it's time to step the hell away from social media - and that time was long, long before that awful follow-up of "the child didn't have any disabilities". Beach kiosk owners who can diagnose hidden disabilities and spectrum disorders with just one glance - what a time to be alive, eh?

I do feel very sorry for that poor girl who's just started working for them, though :(

Oh dear - I bet the kiosk lady is on tranquilisers - what an onslaught!
Sounds to me as though she lost the plot that day and hasn't quite recovered it since. A very poor decision to put the initial post on facebook. I have no doubt people will still use the kiosk once it's all blown over though.
On the plus side, their cakes look lovely.

Are people still saying "paddy" for tantrum? Ffs!

I hate this expression too.

I'm afraid I think people are less principled than you do, I'm better by Autumn people will still go. It's not like the person killed anyone. it will be out of mind by the Autumn. A few hardcore people may boycott but I doubt it will make much of a difference by then. People are fickle.

I have no doubt people will still use the kiosk once it's all blown over though.

Might be difficult to use if its blown over

There'll be a flurry of hate and some people boycotting it, and then her business will be fine. People won't stop buying ice creams and not everybody will see the story about it.
She shouldn't have got involved in the tantrum or touched the child. I'm sure plenty of other people wouldn't have enjoyed all the screaming, so I see her point to an extent, but it's the parents' job to sort it out and take the child further away where they can calm down.

Urgh what a pillock.
I agree about ignoring. My son decided to have a tantrum today (not SN, just being a brat) at a function and of course there were several older ladies trying to 'chivvy him along'. i did try to tell them that ignoring him would bring it too an end quicker, but of course they knew better

Jackie