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Our daughter has to wear a hat at school, is this right? (No hair)

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Georgeson · 10/07/2016 23:09

Hello,

I have no idea what I'm doing. I just went to the bottom of the page, found 'Popular Talk Forums' and clicked on here! Please tell me if I'm in the wrong place. I have just signed up.

Our daughter is in Year 2, she attends an Infant School. She has Osteosarcoma, so has been in and out of hospital. There is no need to go through her whole story, but she is currently having chemotherapy. She has already done chemo, for 10 weeks, and had surgery. We are (hopefully, fingers crossed) battling through the final year of treatment. She has spent a lot of time as an inpatient, but will hopefully have most of this chemo while going in as an outpatient, if that makes sense?

She will be moving up to a Junior School in September, but we are deciding to move, just so we can be closer to our preferred hospital (her treatment couldn't be there full-time, due to the distance) so things will just be easier for her, and us! Our son will be starting school then too, so we have found a great Primary School. We had to go in for a meeting (as she was joining the school in one of their not very common entry points (can't think of the word!)) and it was also a good time for us to talk about her needs.

She will be attending school, like any normal child, but will not be in for 2 afternoons, she may also miss an extra day each month (for other regular checks). This lady wasn't happy... I wasn't keen on her attitude, to be honest. Making subtle digs like "we like our attendance to be the best it can be" and "she'll have to leave at lunchtime, so lessons don't get disturbed". She didn't sound happy at all.

To be honest, I didn't even bring up about her hair, assuming it wouldn't be an issue at all. Her Infant School is really understanding and teaches the children, so they understand, etc.

She specifically handed me a sheet of paper with their hair policy on it. I don't know if that was trying to tell me something or what, it was just odd that it was just that on the bit of paper. I then mentioned that she likes to wear headbands, that are colourful. I was going on to explain that I know bright headbands might not be allowed, but she interrupts me and goes on to explain how "a school cap will be sufficient"... I didn't even get a chance to answer to that, as she moves on to talk about other aspects of the school.

I really don't think she handed any of it sensitively. Her class teacher is absolutely lovely though, really sweet.

I'm just wondering if this is something she has to follow? What will happen if she doesn't wear the school hat? These are the school summer caps, by the way. I never in a million years thought this would be an issue. Is there anyway that I can get her excused from these hair rules?

I know this is a bit of a long shot posting here, as I'm not sure how many people will have gone through the same thing, so I might not get any advice... It's worth a try though!

Thank you in advance,

Kate

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MsVestibule · 10/07/2016 23:35

If this is the only choice of school for your DCs, you really are going to have to behave, as threestars put it, with authority and confidence.

She goes in there on Day 1, wearing what the fuck she wants on her head. I hardly ever swear on here, but I am absolutely outraged by this woman's attitude.

And welcome to MN. You'll get a lot of support on here, and the occasional kick up the arse Grin.

ReggaeShark · 10/07/2016 23:35

Please don't send her there.

feelingmiffed · 10/07/2016 23:39

Oh bloody hell Angry

Do you have a POON Op? If not could someone from hospital talk to school?

My 7 year old is half way through an 18 month chemo course and his POON had a meeting at school, talking about stuff like hats, being allowed to sit on a chair rather than floor if legs are achy etc. Fortunately we have a very supportive school!

TheWindInThePillows · 10/07/2016 23:40

And, of course she can wear nothing if she prefers. They cannot insist that bald heads/heads with hair loss have to wear caps whatsoever, it is not a 'hairstyle' as it cannot be changed or chosen.

Globetrotter100 · 10/07/2016 23:40
Flowers
Georgeson · 10/07/2016 23:42

To be honest, I would have said something, I was just so shocked and upset. I'm really put off by the head and I'm definitely questioning our choice. The thing is, the schools are so oversubscribed in this area, I don't think I have much hope at all, at finding something different.

I'm happy to find something in the school colours, but it was the idea that her haid has to be covered, if you see what I mean? Which is why she said the hat. You see, she likes to wear something like this:

www.claires.co.uk/bright-daisy-print-knotted-bow-headwrap/shop/fcp-product/50362

They let her at her current school. I'll be looking at those links in a second, thank you very much again :)

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GarlicStake · 10/07/2016 23:49

WHAT an arse, OP!!! I'm actually shocked, and that doesn't happen often.

How very bloody dare she rule out life-saving medical treatment if it doesn't fit the timetable? And dictate headgear for a child whose scalp is probably sensitive and has enough worries already???!!

Glad some well-informed posters have given you the documents to hit this HT with (aim hard!) Good luck to you & your family :)

TheWindInThePillows · 10/07/2016 23:51

Fancy one of the main things you think when you meet a new child who is having chemo being that they comply with the hair policy.

Honestly, I'm speechless.

Your dd should have the freedom to have no covering, or a covering in school colours, or if they were a really nice school they wouldn't actually give a shit and would realise how incredibly brave a little child has to be to go to school without any hair and realise that anything that makes them feel better about themselves is just fine, and the world doesn't collapse if one child with a problem has something different than the rest of the school.

Actually, I'm not speechless, I'm angry on your behalf.

I would be very bullish about this and say the consultant/nurse says that it's extremely important for your dd's recovery to be confident with her head the way it is, and to only use soft cotton coverings that don't chafe, and that you will be following that medical advice on her wellbeing.

Get support from the nurse/consultant if you need to, but I would clarify before you start, as this woman sounds anal and not caring (apart from about the state of her hair policy).

nancy75 · 10/07/2016 23:52

Op honestly I would look at all other schools in the area, don't chose based on facilities or ofsted, go with a school that is going to care about your child, even if it's not the best school on paper.

DixieNormas · 10/07/2016 23:53

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Wolpertinger · 10/07/2016 23:57

Do you have a Clic Sargeant Nurse or Social Worker supporting you? If not ask for one now and if you do (which you should) integration into school is something they should be able to support with - so meeting school, school nurse etc for you, saying what your DD's needs are, telling them to shut the fuck up about attendance and school caps and so on.

Honestly, some people's insensitivity is staggering.

trafalgargal · 11/07/2016 00:05

My experience was a school who wants to be supportive and make proper provision for a child with needs can be a great experience but a school who does it resentfully and makes every tiny adjustment feel like a favour can make it a miserable one. Forget the facilities focus on the people who will be interacting with your child daily (and please go and talk to another school she sounded vile and unsupportive)

Dancergirl · 11/07/2016 00:06

OP I am FUMING on your behalf Angry

Please don't send your little girl here. It's not too late to change schools. Please look at other schools where they will treat your dd with kindness and warmth. Don't worry too much about the academic side of things for now, pastoral care is priority now.

I would write to the governors of this school and explain why your dd isn't taking the place. Unbelievable.

I wish you and your family well.

GarlicStake · 11/07/2016 00:09

Academies are protecting their Ofsted status by rejecting all students with extra needs.

They can do this 😰

poaspcos · 11/07/2016 00:13

Has she actually understood your daughter is ill?

I'm flabbergasted by her behaviour, the only possible excuse I can think of for her is her confusing her with another child unlikely, I'm grasping at straws in my shock

Make a fuss OP - she's shocking

littleducks · 11/07/2016 00:18

Maybe she meant a school hat in the playground to protect against the sun? I would act as if she did anyway. So school cap for outside on sunny days (like anyone else). And something suitable (to your dds specs) for inside school. Maybe get something in school colours for in the drawer but send her in initially in what she wears now.

Does she prefer the bands like you linked that have limited coverage? Or would she like a soft bonnet/cap (eg. www.google.co.uk/search?q=hijab+caps&oq=hijab+ca&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l3.4580j0j4&client=ms-android-htc-rev&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#imgrc=wfrL-LFNe6nB5M) Or is that too hot? Not that it affects thread really but I was thinking people might be able to recommend links for items in plainer colour to save you trawling the web.

MidniteScribbler · 11/07/2016 00:25

I didn't actually read it as she was saying your DD must wear a cap at all times. I think she probably was saying that if your daughter wants to wear something, then she can wear a school cap, but not the brightly coloured headbands.

Georgeson · 11/07/2016 00:27

Thank you for all the comments, I will look at other schools, but I think I'm out of luck. I wasn't looking at the academic side of things at all, I was looking for an environment with they would enjoy, and I thought it was the one! I'll make sure to talk to my daughter's team too, to see if they can help.

She prefers the headbands that just go around her head, but still with the top showing. They're not too hot/itchy/irritating, but she feels 'pretty' in them. The school colour is mainly royal blue, so I am on the hunt for some. Thanks very much for all these comments.

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Georgeson · 11/07/2016 00:29

MidniteScribbler, but why would she hand me the school hair policy? To be honest, it's hard to write it down how it was. You know what it's like, if you wasn't there, it's really hard to understand how her tone was. I don't know how to explain it.

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Obeliskherder · 11/07/2016 00:30

I wonder if your best bet is not to engage in the whole cap thing and just send her in in headgear that she likes.

If in doubt get some school coloured ones - maybe polka dot or with a flower etc.

Our school has just cracked down on hairthing colours. While I hope your DD would be allowed to wear whatever she liked, keep to the right colours and they really can't argue.

JudyCoolibar · 11/07/2016 00:30

Do the children really wear caps in school? I've never come across a state school that had a cap included in its uniform, let alone one that makes children wear them indoors.

FlyingElbows · 11/07/2016 00:33

I think you've got your wires crossed. I suspect what the head meant was that if your daughter wishes to wear something on her head then it should be in line with the school uniform policy. I suspect your mention of colourful headbands had the head imagining all sorts of wonderful creations and the mayhem which would ensue when the other girls inevitably want the same hair accessory freedom. I really think you and the head are just talking at crossed purposes and I don't think she at all means that your child is required to cover her head. I'm sure they'd be happy to clarify is you ask.

leghoul · 11/07/2016 00:35

I would not send either child there - I ignored my gut instinct before over something vaguely similar at primary school (voluntary aided state school) and it has been the biggest mistake I could have ever made. I am biased, but I'd have big alarm bells at that attitude.
hope DD continues to get well and you find the right place for her Flowers

giraffesCantReachTheirToes · 11/07/2016 00:36

cow

Boogers · 11/07/2016 00:39

Georgeson that's shocking! Was it the teacher, head of year or head teacher who said that?

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