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Brexit rage

706 replies

holeinyourhead · 06/07/2016 18:52

What's happened in the last 10 days has really affected me. It's all I think about tbh and I feel so enraged at seeing the politicians lie to us so lavishly then bail on us so swiftly, yet I'm completely powerless to do anything. I marched, I wrote to my MP, I've signed petitions. I'm obviously one of the 48% who wanted to remain. I can't find fault with the 52% who voted to leave, it's not their fault. It's a democratic process, I understand that of course. Everyone's entitled to their view and it's not that I'm a sore loser. But the catastrophic fallout isn't what even the most hardline leave voter would have wished for, there's no Brexit plan, and the future looks very bleak. I was at a conference today and a Conservative MP and a Brussels Eurocrats both agreed a recession in the medium term is now inevitable. People around me seem to be getting on with things - I wish I could too - but I've been very tearful and sleepless and worried sick. I run a European business just out of start up phase, employing a handful of people who by chance are not British born and who are now very nervous themselves about the future. The more I read the more hopeless I feel with each passing resignation. AIBU to feel like this? Does anyone else feel the same? Am I going nuts?!! I feel very alone.

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KellyElly · 06/07/2016 21:07

I feel the same. My partner is Spanish and me and DD (not his child) are moving to Spain next year. This has got me on a personal level as well as a political level. The only thing that will make me feel better is if we negotiate to stay in the single market and keep freedom of movement. Then things will pretty much remain as they are. However, that will make Brexit pretty stupid as we will be paying the same or more as we are, but having no say in the EU. It's a catch 22.

beetroot2 · 06/07/2016 21:08

Rage, really? Time to move on, I voted out and am glad I did.

Bambamrubblesmum · 06/07/2016 21:09

Another great one I've heard ....

But at least we'll have got rid of an unelected layer of bureaucracy. This coming from a country that has a monarchy! Which isn't even based on professional competence but who you bump into in the student union bar at St Andrews!

itsmesooky · 06/07/2016 21:09

Yabbaddabo2: Yep, but what were they expecting. Nobody expected Cameron not to invoke article 50 straightaway.

itsmesooky · 06/07/2016 21:11

The House of Lords is unelected, and so will be our next Prime Minister. D'oh.

slightlyglitterbrained · 06/07/2016 21:11

And I guess after we're out of the EU, it'll be "well yes but we're still negotiating trade agreements". For the next 7-10 years.

And after that, what will be the excuse for the lack of unicorns and rainbows then?

UnderTheGreenwoodTree · 06/07/2016 21:13

Well, some of us can't move on - because we don't know what is going to happen. People are suffering great uncertainty - jobs (from city trading to Sunderland car manufacturing) and are at risk, as is our economy, academic grants at our universities, people are suffering racist abuse... I could go on. Some of us are living this.

But yes, we sure showed Juncker and Merkel Hmm

ilovesooty · 06/07/2016 21:14

Waxy very much the same at my place of work.

Bookmarking to come back to in a year Hmm

StrictlyMumDancing · 06/07/2016 21:16

helmet I'm ponce central outer level, very pro brexit. I've been abused for looking not British enough (I'm white). My 3yo ds came home from preschool asking why it's not good to have brown skin and very upset - SIL is of Asian ethnicity so he didn't understand. There have been reports of incidents at dds school. It's madness.

beetroot2 · 06/07/2016 21:18

Arm chair politicians again. The country took a democratic vote. Its was to get out of a system that made the rich richer and the poor poorer.

bibbitybobbityyhat · 06/07/2016 21:19

Yanbu op. The rage I feel just increases with each passing day. I will never get over this and I don't think the country will ever get over it. And it's all down to what? a handful of people? probably fewer than 50, who made this poxy referendum happen. What a bunch of abject losers. I am so angry it is an absolute taint on my life right now.

clam · 06/07/2016 21:20

Time to move on.

No. It really isn't. There is no "moving on" from this. We're stuck with it, unless a miracle happens (and I have to say I wouldn't bet my mortgage on it actually happening in the end at all).

ilovesooty · 06/07/2016 21:20

beetroot do feel free to explain how you expect wealth to be more fairly distributed...

StrictlyMumDancing · 06/07/2016 21:20

Nobody expected Cameron not to invoke article 50 straightaway.

Weirdly enough I did. And I expected him to resign. I was shocked that lots of other people didn't see that coming. That morning people were expressing their disbelief and there I was saying his position was untenable surely.

beetroot2 · 06/07/2016 21:21

There is moving on. Support the majority that voted out instead of harping on the past.

Helmetbymidnight · 06/07/2016 21:22

It's horrendous- it feels like the way we've been moving all these years to a more tolerant, inclusive society has just been whipped away- and for what? Nothing- so pointless...

bibbitybobbityyhat · 06/07/2016 21:22

Oh wow look at you StrictlyMumDancing! Aren't you clever?

ilovesooty · 06/07/2016 21:24

I have no intention of supporting the decision made by people voting in a referendum we should never have had.

I don't expect to move on at any point as the fallout from this will certainly be evident for the rest of my life.

clam · 06/07/2016 21:25

beetroot2 I've seen you "harping on" about this endlessly over the last week or two and it's really getting on my tits. Why the fuck should any of us "support" such insanity? And it was not the majority of the country, technically, either. And that's leaving aside all those arses who, in the days after the vote, started whingeing that they regretted what they'd done.

Swirlingasong · 06/07/2016 21:25

Still very angry, op. For the country in general and on a personal level, for various reasons, I feel this vote will mean I will never have the career I hoped for, and quite possibly never be able to retire. My children will certainly not have the opportunities I had. It is highly likely that many friends and some family will move.

In general I am not angry at leave voters. I am angry at the politicians and press who lied and manipulated. However, having carefully explained the likely outcome of a leave vote on me, our children and things that I hold dear, I am very angry that my PiL still voted leave. Their reasons were to do with the colour of people's faces on the bus and the state of potholes in the road as far as I can make out. Dh voted remain but is able to dissociate the vote and in general doesn't think much about politics or likely futures so i can't talk to him but I am really struggling . I know I will have to see them an delay happy families but this has revealed things that I really, really don't like. How do other people cope with this?

In answer to your op, yes, I feel despair and depression and also feel quite alone. But, day to day, you wouldn't know this because I have to get on, kids need to goto school, meals need cooking, I can't just rant as I would like to.

Yabbadabbo2 · 06/07/2016 21:26

Tangible benefit post EU is a sensible immigration policy that welcome's people who have skills we need wherever in the world they live

PurplePetals · 06/07/2016 21:26

Arm chair politicians again. The country took a democratic vote. Its was to get out of a system that made the rich richer and the poor poorer.

Just when I think I've seen/heard it all someone comes along and proves me wrong...
Hooray! In two years time the rich will have seen the error of their ways and redistributed their wealth. Utopia here we come!

SabineUndine · 06/07/2016 21:26

Haven't been surprised by anything that's happened so far either, so no need for you to be snarky Bibbity.

Bambamrubblesmum · 06/07/2016 21:27

poor poorer yes damn those EU grants and funding, what utter bastards. We'll show them we can do without their subsidising ways.... we don't need you but we're still going to get the money right?

How exactly are you going to make the poor richer with Government spending cuts? Benefits will need to be reduced even further. All those housing, education and health policies were UK government led not EU. If you want to blame someone for the poor being poor look to the governments endorsement of zero hour contracts and spending cuts. You've just removed the one body that protected employment rights.

beetroot2 · 06/07/2016 21:27

Im not harping on anything Grin we're out. Armchair economists etc. Its a breath of fresh air.