Brexit rage

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What's happened in the last 10 days has really affected me. It's all I think about tbh and I feel so enraged at seeing the politicians lie to us so lavishly then bail on us so swiftly, yet I'm completely powerless to do anything. I marched, I wrote to my MP, I've signed petitions. I'm obviously one of the 48% who wanted to remain. I can't find fault with the 52% who voted to leave, it's not their fault. It's a democratic process, I understand that of course. Everyone's entitled to their view and it's not that I'm a sore loser. But the catastrophic fallout isn't what even the most hardline leave voter would have wished for, there's no Brexit plan, and the future looks very bleak. I was at a conference today and a Conservative MP and a Brussels Eurocrats both agreed a recession in the medium term is now inevitable. People around me seem to be getting on with things - I wish I could too - but I've been very tearful and sleepless and worried sick. I run a European business just out of start up phase, employing a handful of people who by chance are not British born and who are now very nervous themselves about the future. The more I read the more hopeless I feel with each passing resignation. AIBU to feel like this? Does anyone else feel the same? Am I going nuts?!! I feel very alone.

Bookmarking to come back to in a year.

Why not come back in a few weeks, Sandra?

Jaws5: Sadly, your husband's relatives are right: It IS just a little island, and it will be nothing more than that, given a few years. I'm in a similar situation as you, just back from the contintent and you know what? They see the opportunities there, lots of growth for some areas with all the businesses moving and investing there. This is what happens when you base your vote on a 'gut feeling' rather than logic and rational thought. I'm sad and upset, this should never have been put to a popular vote. It's clearly way too complicated for a lot of people and here we are. Regrexit? Not on the continent, they're moving on. We, here in the UK, will have to deal with the consequences, and this is only the start next.ft.com/content/88cd6ee4-42bd-11e6-9b66-0712b3873ae1#axzz4DbtvHte6 - check out the drop in job ads after the referendum.

I vacillate between fury and despair. I am desperate to have my position (remain, obvs) proved wrong but nothing the Leavers say helps. My life - intertwined with the EU - is crumbling daily and I feel utterly powerless to stop it and vacuous platitudes from Leavers makes me want to vomit/ stab someone.

Two excellent articles, well worth a read. Julie Birchall is hilarious.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/25/london-separate-city-state-leave-voters-class

blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/06/brexit-divide-wasnt-young-old-ponces-non-ponces/

sandra give it a rest.

People on here aren't hysterical. They are reporting actual effects and discussing very real worries.

I hope you do come back to all the threads you commented on about this issues in a year and see how zealous and naive you are making yourself look.

In fact, leave it five years. Then you might have a better picture of how shit things have become.

Yeah - those of us who will/may be personally affected by this find Julie Birchall hilarious.

For all those who voted for Leave: Please provide one TANGIBLE benefit of leaving the EU. Go on.

YANBU. Still angry. And the fact we have no plan is just astonishing and making me feel no better. A staunch Tory supporter I know on FB challenged me when I did a status complaining as such saying that Britain would be 'stupid' to enact Article 50 straight away and 'of course' the Govt have a plan. Made me so cross, the blind trust in these self-serving politicians.
Additionally, two friends of mine have been racially abused with direct reference to the referendum since the results. One of whom is as British as you can get, she just happens to have Malaysian heritage.
So YANBU, it's not whining to still be upset about the result. It's left the country in a mess and this is just fuelling our discontent, that's all. And all we CAN do is get on with things but it's tough with so much uncertainty. I really feel for EU residents here as it must be that much worse.

We'll see if everyone's still laughing when the job losses start. Because they will.

itsmesooky, yes, you're right about the continent! And yes, a little island it's going to be! One of the relatives also accused us of not having a clue or caring about the lives of the poor as we live in London and therefore are millionaires because of the value of our home if we sold it!! The hypocrisy: they've been buying to rent for years and sent their children to exclusive schools, but we're the ones who are selfish because we are liberal Londoners.... unbelievable! So furious!

I personally feel angry that I could be stripped of my European citizenship rights based on lies and misdirection. However, there may be a possible legal challenge to Brexit waiting in the wings.

People saying it's all democratic seem to be missing the point that it was an advisory referendum not legally binding. Apparently Article 50 cannot be invoked by the PM it has to be done by an act of parliament. Given that the majority of MPs want to remain in think there is more to come on this...

What makes me laugh is the generation saying they don't want so many migrants here and things to go back to as they were. They seem to have missed the point that for every 1 pensioner drawing or counting on the state pension there are 3 working tax payers paying into the pot to support that pension. If they decrease the number of workers paying in whose going to support their state pension? Combine that with lower interest rates so the pension is actually worth less and yeah you've really done well there! Benefit top ups won't be available as there will have to be cuts to government spending and what a rosy picture your looking at.

YANBU. I am right there with you, obsessing. My friends and I all say the same thing: the referendum result has completely affected the way we feel about the UK. I actually go through my day wondering whether every person I meet voted Remain or Leave (and find myself guessing and judging, too, in a way that probably isn't healthy or helpful).

Please, give us a break. People on here want to vomit or stab someone? For real? Get a grip. Quickly.

Yanbu, my index linked pension has already taken a hit, and several friends with small businesses are seeing issues with their suppliers already.
On a personal note both my DH and I have worked in Europe and are devastated that our children are unlikely to have that freedom.

I talked to my team at work today about Brexit rage and the stages of grief model (emotions are very high still). None of us are yet at acceptance and swinging between denial, blame/anger, self-doubt and depression.

It explains the heightened emotions and why we've all been feeling a bit snappy and sensitive since the vote.

For all those who voted for Leave: Please provide one TANGIBLE benefit of leaving the EU. Go on.
Here's two.

That's not a tangible benefit of Leave, that's a photograph of Merkel and Juncker.

Ah, yes. All those leave voters who were whipped into a frenzy by right wing papers about Angela Merkel and Jean-Claude Junker.
Yep, you showed those bastards. You fucked over your country in the process. But what does that matter? Just as long as some person you've never met, but have been told to hate, doesn't get to tell you what to do anymore (not that they did in the first place).

Still waiting for those tangible benefits...any Leavers out there who'd like to elaborate? TANGIBLE, remember. Even if you think it'll be 'in a few weeks'...what do you think the tangible benefits will be, say in October?

Maybe it's tangible in the sense that all that European touching will all go out the window in favour of a good old British handshake?

Haha, ginghambox.

Still waiting for those tangible benefits...any Leavers out there who'd like to elaborate? TANGIBLE, remember. Even if you think it'll be 'in a few weeks'...what do you think the tangible benefits will be, say in October?
None as we are still in the EU

YANBU OP. I am still veering wildly between livid, a bit scared and downright miserable. I don't even know when or if I might feel better. It's not good.

I live in non-ponce territory, as Julie birchill might say. Three of my friends have been racially abused since referendum day.

Looks like nobody has any hence the lame jokes.