Brexit rage

[holeinyourhead]

What's happened in the last 10 days has really affected me. It's all I think about tbh and I feel so enraged at seeing the politicians lie to us so lavishly then bail on us so swiftly, yet I'm completely powerless to do anything. I marched, I wrote to my MP, I've signed petitions. I'm obviously one of the 48% who wanted to remain. I can't find fault with the 52% who voted to leave, it's not their fault. It's a democratic process, I understand that of course. Everyone's entitled to their view and it's not that I'm a sore loser. But the catastrophic fallout isn't what even the most hardline leave voter would have wished for, there's no Brexit plan, and the future looks very bleak. I was at a conference today and a Conservative MP and a Brussels Eurocrats both agreed a recession in the medium term is now inevitable. People around me seem to be getting on with things - I wish I could too - but I've been very tearful and sleepless and worried sick. I run a European business just out of start up phase, employing a handful of people who by chance are not British born and who are now very nervous themselves about the future. The more I read the more hopeless I feel with each passing resignation. AIBU to feel like this? Does anyone else feel the same? Am I going nuts?!! I feel very alone.

YANBU. Oh and sandra, do get back to us, say, early August, and remind us that the rocky few weeks are over, because unless I'm very much mistaken, things are going be rocky far, far beyond then.

'It'll all be over by Christmas'

I feel exactly the same OP. I have been almost constantly on here, twitter, watching the news.

DH works for the financial sector in London, reliant on trade with the EU - our whole lives are up in the air.

*Today 19:27 sandrabedminster

Yabu. Both sides were filled with lies.

What lies did Remainers tell?

All of us exiters knew it would be a rocky few weeks for long term gain.

Few weeks?!

And you knew that everyone who campaigned for Leave would wash their hands of it completely on winning, for one?

I was at Chartwell recently. Looking at information about Churchill's work on the Human Rights Treaty, it made me really sad that so many Leave voters and politicians want to undo what he did. Indeed, a fairly substantial proportion of them actually voted Leave because they wrongly thought the Human Rights Court is part of the EU.

It's also frightening, because of course the thinking behind the Treaty was to try to avoid bringing about the state of affairs which led to the war and the Human Rights abuses that happened before and during the war. It feels as if we've already taken several steps back and are moving into a dangerous stage in European and world politics.

Yanbu

I personally don't believe people who say there is nothing I can do about it.

I don't necessarily mean overturn the vote, I mean make things better.

Your business needs to be part of making things better, you need to channel the feelings

I don't want this to turn into a Leave bashing column but it does amaze me hearing these bland platitudes like 'a few weeks' - my own parents believe this too, it's like they have been hypnotised, there is no convincing them that the economy is in turmoil and will remain so for the foreseeable future Ie years not weeks

I was very depressed for about a week. Kept having that awful feeling when you wake up and feel normal/carefree for about a nanosecond and then reality hits you like a ton of bricks. I did hardly any work all week, found it hard to think about anything else.

There was a really nice piece by Vince Cable in the Independent that helped me turn a corner and start looking to the future.

But I agree with you that the rocky times are yet to come and will last for years. 'Weeks' - if only!

YANBU. This is a political, social and economic distaster. I am worried for my sons future in the xenophobic backwater the UK is becoming. Oh yes and will have no money to leave as it's tied up in the house, the price of which will drop.

I do however blame the leave voters, the tiniest amount of research, or y'know thought could have shown what a fucking disaster this is. FIL voted leave because 'he thought it was better before'. The fucking idiot. As though you should compare the world of the 70s with now. We're fucked.

I don't want this to turn into a Leave bashing column but it does amaze me hearing these bland platitudes like 'a few weeks' - where are they getting their information from?! My own parents believe this too.

I feel terribly and irrationally let down about that - they won't even live to see any of the perceived good they think they have voted for - aaaarggh!!!

It's like they have been hypnotised, there is no convincing them that the economy is in turmoil and will remain so for the foreseeable future Ie years ..... not weeks sadly

I voted leave because Britain needed change.

Is Brexit going to leave us better or worse off?
That is all in the hands of the politicians now. And I must say, their behaviour is not leaving me at all reassured that they are going to do the right things.

Recession? That's a strong word. A downturn certainly seems likely, but that can be triggered by many things. It is not, in itself, something to worry about.

I'll admit I'm worried too, because I don't know quite what's going to happen. I think Britain is capable of being better outside the EU. After all, we are the fifth strongest economy in the world. We just need a leader to take us there.

Lies by remain are but not limited to
Emergency budget
4300 pounds worse off
Ww3
EU provides peace ( ask Ukraine about that? )
Trade wars
Obama and all he said (lame duck president)
The IMF and whatever they say

My. That was cathartic

You are so not alone. Also find it v. difficult to concentrate - even though personally and as a family, we'll be fine, but appalled at the mirror held up to Britain - the murder of Jo Cox obviously being the very lowest point. Have even seen one poster on MN saying 'it cost the leave campaign votes". Unbelieveable.

Ignore sandra she's been bobbing around on the EU Ref threads saying the same old bobbins. It's not worth the effort.

It is the same school of thought that thinks the state of the FTSE 100 shows everything is sunshine and rainbows, that anything but the right wing press is biased and that remainers are talking down the economy.

It is, in fact, a bunch of people with selective hearing who will probably have selective memories in a few years.

All very, very vexing.

Don't know why this keeps duplicating, sorry

my job is part funded by the Youth Employment Initiative - money direct from the EU

It's fair to say I am fed up and concerned about the future - not for me but for the young people who will have even less support - this government doesn't care about under 25's - so what now?

A few weeks is just more Brexit spin - I don't think leave told lies though - they certainly didn't promise to end immigration or spend £350 million a week on the NHS

After all, we are the fifth strongest economy in the world.

Sixth now. We were pushed back behind France post-Brexit.

Yabba - Ukraine isn't in the EU.

I sympathise completely OP I've also been thinking about this non-stop and can't stop the feelings of rage at the Tories for getting us into this mess and then showing absolutely no interest in sorting it all out. I thought the Tory line on the junior doctors was scandalous enough, as was the privatising school education, but breaking up the United Kingdom is beyond horrendous. But already it feels like it's being swept under the carpet in favour of the leadership battle. Theresa May scares me, the future is going to get very bleak. For a non-white single parent like me this feels like the beginning of an apocalypse.

And no matter how dramatic that sounds, it's how I feel right now

After all, we are the fifth strongest economy in the world 6th now - France overtook us the day after the vote!

Recessions are caused by downturns in the economy. How is the pound being its lowest since 1985, a plummeting FTSE 250 and wide spread panic about UK property investment anything other than a disaster? Please tell me how this doesn't lead to recession.

Are all the remainers happy to be associated with stuff like this www.euractiv.com/section/global-europe/news/eu-decried-for-seeking-deal-with-north-korea-of-africa/?

Yanbu.

Rocky few weeks before long term gain - says so much doesn't it.

Unbelievable.

me too OP! I am so upset still, I really feel like someone has pulled the carpet from under me.

the catastrophe that "project fear" were warning about has happened. we have literally shot ourselves in the foot and the damage will be long term. i'm frightened for the future.

I am angry too, OP!
The circles I move in, people talk of little else, shaking their heads in disbelief.

I am pinning my hopes on the government never actually invoking Article 50.