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If a general election is called would you vote Lib Dem to stay in the EU?

308 replies

Rainbunny · 28/06/2016 21:49

If there is a general election the Lib Dems have stated they will run on a platform to keep the UK in the EU if they win. The Tories obviously won't do that and the Labour party can't really run on that platform I don't think since so many Labour voters voted to leave. I'm curious if the Lib Dems would attract a lot of support since they would effectively be turning the general election into a second referendum.

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AndNowItsSeven · 29/06/2016 18:01

Yes ( only every voted Labour )

SallyMcgally · 29/06/2016 18:05

Yes. I'd do anything to stop Brexit. And like others I'm now beginning to see how much they must have reined the Tories in when they were in coalition. It's hard to forget the tuition fees though, and I still don't forgive them for that.. At the moment, though, they're our best hope.

TempsPerdu · 29/06/2016 18:23

Speakergirl Their no Brexit pledge is attractive, yes, but for me it's more that their wider views (eg on the environment) align more closely with my own than the Tories/Labour. If more people are drawn to them because of their pro-EU stance a LD vote might actually be seen as positive and worthwhile, rather than a protest/wasted vote.

As I said above, I feel there's a place for a moderate, liberal, pragmatic centrist party as the Tories lurch rightwards and Labour are mired in internal struggles and chaotic, student union-style identity politics.

CaptainBrickbeard · 29/06/2016 18:24

No one so far has come up with a benefit of Brexit, but if it brings the Lib Dems to power (and they stop it going ahead!) then this referendum will have been a brilliant move!

Propertyquandry · 29/06/2016 18:39

I'd like, Nick Clegg and David Miliband to run the country please. Can we get them together before any election? Who would defect to be with them, do we think?

I'm sick of hearing that Jeremy Corbyn is 'one of us'. Well I for one don't want my PM to be 'one of us'. I want them to have a brain the size of a planet and balls (or ovaries) of steel. I want wit, ease, charisma and reason. I want them to realise that they've got the job; they're my elected representative and I expect them to make tough but decent minded decisions. And I don't ever, ever want them to trust the electorate with anything so vital ever again. The electorate are, as a whole, ill informed and prone to rash knee jerk reactions. Save such votes for Parliament.

HereSheComestoSavetheDay · 29/06/2016 18:41

Reluctantly.

NameChanger22 · 29/06/2016 18:41

Yes.

RaspberryOverload · 29/06/2016 18:43

I think I would, reluctantly.

Laodicean · 29/06/2016 18:45

property I agree with much of what you say, and I think there is room for a progressive liberal party to provide an alternative to far right/left parties.

But if the Lib Dems are prepared to take up the baton,then yes, I might well vote for them.

I've looked at what they are saying and it makes sense to me. We need to get out of this mess.

I appreciate what some are saying about democracy, but there do seem time to be a lot of leave voters who are saying either they regret their decision or didn't understand the consequences.

Hulababy · 29/06/2016 18:49

Yes.

And I think it is hard to judge them on things which happened previously because they were never truly in charge. It was a Con-Lib partnership, but with Con leading the way. All Lib Dem could do was try to temper down some of the Con policies and look for some compromise.

Flashbangandgone · 29/06/2016 18:51

speakergirl

Strange comment... The LibDems position on this is entirely consistent with their views. Also, it's not a view that a great many people will support (the world doesn't consist of this thread!)

Actually, if there's one party is trust not to do another 'tuition fees' type-thing, it's the LibDems.... They suffered enormously for their mistake in a way other parties haven't do theirs. They're hardly likely to repeat it!

Flashbangandgone · 29/06/2016 18:51

Ps I'm saying this not as a LibDem member or even supporter!

Flashbangandgone · 29/06/2016 18:54

Also, it was voters decision to punish them so severely that led to a Tory government, which in turn led to the referendum etc. etc. perhaps if we hadn't been so harsh and not held them to a standard we don't of the two main parties, we wouldn't be in this mess!

CaptainBrickbeard · 29/06/2016 19:01

Property, Obama will be free after November, right? He sounds like he fits your bill, can we get him please?

SpudTato · 29/06/2016 19:06

Reluctantly yes. Any way out of this mess.

Mumwithteens20 · 29/06/2016 19:06

Yes - along with most other folk here - but also recognising that we are not a representative sample of the general public - so it doesn't matter really what we say.

I'd also happily invite Obama over here :)
I'd also happily give Nigel Farage a gun (per talk about that stupid idea over the last day) - with the hope that he would shoot himself with it...

Propertyquandry · 29/06/2016 19:15

Yep, Obama is more than welcome! Both Mr and Mrs fit what I'm looking for so either would do! On that note, Miriam Gonzalez Durantez fits the bill too. She was articulate and convincing when interviewed by Naga Munchetty on BBC news24 the other day.

Propertyquandry · 29/06/2016 19:16

Or Mrs Clegg as the DM insist on calling her. Hmm

lolo14 · 29/06/2016 19:20

Yes!

Tugstonia · 29/06/2016 19:22

Yes. Despite vowing never to again after the tuition fees betrayal. But yes, I would. This could be their resurrection.

Becky546 · 29/06/2016 19:31

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GogoGobo · 29/06/2016 19:46

Yes - lifelong labour supporter but would vote Lib Dem

NeverTalksToStrangers · 29/06/2016 19:51

In a heartbeat, yes. Alas, I live in NI.

Maybe they could you field some candidates here.

SwedishEdith · 29/06/2016 20:43

I'd actually forgotten that Clegg was still an MP. Blush Where was he in the campaining or is he seen as still toxic?

BreakWindandFire · 29/06/2016 21:00

The tuition fee issue wasn't just a manifesto commitment (so fair enough if they couldn't deliver in coalition). That pledge they were all pictured with was a personal guarantee that the MP concerned would not vote for a rise, no matter what.

The Lib Dems might say they want to stay in Europe, but one sniff of a ministerial limo and it would be 'Up yours Delors'!

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