I voted Leave but don't deserve abuse for it !!!!

[AmyWatt1972]

Yesterday I voted to leave after months of thought about all the main issues regarding membership.

I decided to leave based on sovereignty, I don't want a closer EU/United States Of Europe. I don't want my son to be in an EU army.

Immigration and economics for me were lesser issues. But still influenced my vote.

The names on here and Twitter that have been directed at leave voters has astonished me.

I am not uneducated, racist or xenophobic. I simply want the best for my country and that IMO is leave and I am overjoyed with the victory today against all odds.

Maybe if those on the remain side looked more into the arguments instead of name calling it would have been a different result.

It shocks me that labour supporters on Twitter are saying these horrible names against leave voters, but they need us to get their seats in the north, I don't think it is a good idea to insult your own base.

Even on mumsnet rhetoric has been appalling, I have had posters say they can't bring themselves to speak to leave voting parents.

Why can't you just accept maybe that leave possibly has a better campaign/arguments.

This idea that many leave voters regret the vote is wrong, everyone I know who voted leave is in a joyous mode today.

Can we just move on now and accept the result instead of insulting 52% of the population.

Totally yet to understand what the voters who voted exit voted for. I'm only hoping other decent EU countries perhaps look at the fact we don't all like what's going on in the EU but we address the problem rather than quitting. It depresses me to think the populist press has nobbled the uneducated, sorry it's not PC, into thinking all the big numbers counted. Scaremongering is lame politics. On both sides.

In the light of the wonderful Jo Cox being murdered, and I'm not a labour voter, perhaps a moment of calm is needed.

I am somewhat perplexed that as of 9.30 I have yet to hear a good future forecast from those I know who have achieved what they wanted . I susoect the 48% of remains will not riot, and will support in a positive manner the next move. I doubt had the result been reversed this would be the response .

I voted out and am proud that the out has won.

I don't care about the hissy fit that the in voters are saying.

Belittling people is not on.

I don't care about Scotland, if it leaves good riddance.
You watch EU army is coming soon

Bright spark.

You won. Congratulation.

Oh I think there's plans made already on how to deal with Border protection. Don't worry too much about that

Sorry user, I don't understand. I'm being as polite as I can be, deliberately. How do you think a worsening economy will help you?
If it helps, I'm not wealthy. Or even comfortable. I've been stuck with no money for food. But it's not a race to the bottom. And as far as I can see, if the economy implodes, there is a real risk that the NhS will worsen. Whatever my own finances, my kids have always been able to see a doctor if they need it. As have yours, I assume. If the economy nose dives to the tune of £250 billion, that becomes harder to be sure of.
I'm pleased you stockpile though. Our peas failed this year, and the strawberries never got going so we won't be stockpiling this year.

You'll get solid proof soon enough. And it will be too late for remorse

So you have no proof then? Because there is none!

No one knows what will happen. You can speculate all you like but there is no indisputable evidence as to what will happen, so stop with your scaremongering bullshit, its getting old now.

The leave campaign admitted it today it was propaganda to get you're vote.

I voted leave, but even I think you're starting to sound like a complete and utter plonker OP.
But then, that's been your aim all along.
I strongly suspect that's what you want people to think.
I'm right, aren't I?

Yes, I think you are!

OP and bogeyface
I have posted this on another thread but reproducing for you.

Once upon a time a country named Afghanistan voted Taliban. I never saw any Brits supporting that democracy and rightly so. What is wrong with the people? It's democracy. Man made and error prone. This is NOT about democracy anyway. It's about lies to veer people into thinking they are voting democratically. What's so hard to understand in this?

Got it now?

You can say what you want about us but at the end of the day we are on the right side of history.

No no no. You don't get to say that less than 24 hours in! Come back in five years and tell us you were on the right side of history. Us just being the English and Welsh by then I expect.

And I think (think because none of us know) that you are wrong about the working classes being the ones to benefit. It will be the well off who can swan around hoovering up cheap property if the economy crashes, or they can just upsticks and leave. It will be the poor who get chased for their benefits again, and who can't keep up with or get a mortgage, and who will be scared to have a baby because they don't know what the future holds. In general with all things of this nature, the poor get screwed. This isn't a Robin Hood deal, we are still under the Tories, and Osborne still has lots of ideas about how to wring a few extra pounds out of us. I give it two months maximum before he 'regretfully' announces that working tax credits will have to be cut after all.

Totally yet to understand what the voters who voted exit voted for. I'm only hoping other decent EU countries perhaps look at the fact we don't all like what's going on in the EU but we address the problem rather than quitting

This is an excellent article that raises just these issues:

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/24/brexit-britain-disintegrating-eu-yanis-varoufakis

Your vote, your choice, yours to defend.

There is 'abuse' on both sides. If it is not personally directed at you then you have to suck it up as part of the exit cohort - ditto the remain cohort.

It's called living in a democracy,

Oh I think there's plans made already on how to deal with Border protection. Don't worry too much about that

wow - insider information or more projection? what a ridiculous statement...

Why do Scotland think they would be better off outside the Uk, they would need to setup their own currency they wouldn't qualify to enter the euro currency, import and export will cost a fortune they have no eady way to ship to mainland europe.

Errrrrm.......you do know that Scotland to the Netherlands is a short hop by boat? You know, those boat things that you can put goods on to offload them at the next port? You know that Scotland already exports lots of stuff to the EU? You know about the oil, right? It goes in barrels.... on boats.... to other countries....

Really, I mean OP complains about abuse, but some Leavers are genuinely the thickest idiots I've ever encountered.

Oh get a fucking grip all of you. No one has sold anyones children down the river or singlehandedly tanked the economy. You're chucking a childish tantrum because the vote didn't go your way and no the op does not deserve abuse. You realise the sky isn't going to fall right? You realise that we did exist before we joined Europe and survived and no doubt we will again? You DO know that being able to vote on this kind of thing is the whole point of BEING a democracy? Of course the pound will take a drop initially, of course things will get worse before they get better, we all knew that, whichever way it went. Its unknown and a bit daunting but not the end of the the fucking world.

MN is really not coming out of this looking good; I can't believe you're all so spiteful and toxic. Is this behaviour the example you set your kids? Spewing a load of vile abuse and bullying people from behind a screen because they exercised their democratic right and voted for what they felt was best? Because if so, they are fucked in life whether we are in or out. I would never turn my back on my friends or family or slag someone off because they voted to leave. It's their choice ffs, yesterday you were all saying that everyone should vote, no matter what their choice, everyone should have a say. Now that they have and it hasn't gone remain's way, you're kicking off and abusing them for it.

I susoect the 48% of remains will not riot, and will support in a positive manner the next move. I doubt had the result been reversed this would be the response .

Oh nice!

So all the Bremainers were naice middle class stoics who will keep calm and carry on? Not by the evidence of this thread they are not!

Whereas all the Brexiters are thick underclass bottle hurlers?

In my view you are taking away opportunities for a generation
Extremely selfish
I don't understand your comments regarding economics - as has been played out today, it is likely to be a big issue economically!

Eve - I would like to know, because I know the other side, I read and researched as much as I could, and I would be pissed off if I thought the future of my kids had been sold down the swanny by people who had done no reading, and no research, but based their vote on - what?
Mostly I say "If you don't do the research that's up to you." Because mostly, it only affects you so it's up to you. This time, it affects me and mine and I'd like to be sure it was based on sound facts. So far, no one has given me any facts.

Oh and no, I don't have to accept your view point, or majority that is democracy.

user you keep claiming that European migrants are coming to your workplace and working for less than minimum wage cash in hand. I assume you realise this is illegal? The company you work for are breaking the law. There are so many things wrong with this situation but the EU holds no responsibility for it. You on the other hand could take some control and report them!

Democratic voting is great and I'm an advocate of this. Purposely targeting in a sensationalist manner those who can't read the detail or can't be bothered to read the detail is a propaganda. It sucks the uneducated, naive, and bigoted in.

Lol you couldn't manage to bold manc

Are the remain voters still crying? There there you special snowflakes

The more I read comments from the people who voted to leave, the more I despair.

Our country has been pushed off a cliff, and those who voted for it to be pushed are making it screamingly clear that they don't really understand what they've done.

There will be exceptions. Some really smart, intelligent people might have voted to leave, but they are staying quiet in the aftermath, and leaving the shouting to those others.