I voted Leave but don't deserve abuse for it !!!!

[AmyWatt1972]

Yesterday I voted to leave after months of thought about all the main issues regarding membership.

I decided to leave based on sovereignty, I don't want a closer EU/United States Of Europe. I don't want my son to be in an EU army.

Immigration and economics for me were lesser issues. But still influenced my vote.

The names on here and Twitter that have been directed at leave voters has astonished me.

I am not uneducated, racist or xenophobic. I simply want the best for my country and that IMO is leave and I am overjoyed with the victory today against all odds.

Maybe if those on the remain side looked more into the arguments instead of name calling it would have been a different result.

It shocks me that labour supporters on Twitter are saying these horrible names against leave voters, but they need us to get their seats in the north, I don't think it is a good idea to insult your own base.

Even on mumsnet rhetoric has been appalling, I have had posters say they can't bring themselves to speak to leave voting parents.

Why can't you just accept maybe that leave possibly has a better campaign/arguments.

This idea that many leave voters regret the vote is wrong, everyone I know who voted leave is in a joyous mode today.

Can we just move on now and accept the result instead of insulting 52% of the population.

I don't expect you to care Bogey, but equally I'm not going to help you if you are shafted by the result. I'm looking after mine now.

I am sure I'll cope.

The petulant "it's my democratic right to vote however I want" seems to be only argument brexiters are able to summon now, when questioned about their reasoning for their choice as it becomes more and more apparent what a shit storm will now ensue.

The so-called 'refugee crisis' is nothing to do with the EU. Refugees are not migrants.

The fact that Leave campaigners keep coming out with these factual errors and then claiming they voted based on research and reason is what's pissing people off.

My particular situation/career is unlikely to be directly affected by whether we leave or remain, or affected only slightly. Likewise, I personally benefit financially from a Conservative government. I voted Labour and Remain because as someone rightly said upthread, I want to live in a society that values equality, a safety net, and retains its influence and negotiating power within the EU.

Lucky you bogey. Unfortunately I suspect many won't.

You just sound completely ignorant OP, and it's sad that you didn't even bother to find out the facts.

mumontherun - why can I not ask her to explain their view of the benefits? Most of their assertions of the benefits are not factual so it would be more helpful to gain actual insight rather than their goady comments about not caring about scotland and welcoming at permanent tory government..

You can say what you want about us but at the end of the day we are on the right side of history.

😂😂😂 you have no idea what youre even saying.

This morning, I had the horrific realisation that people actually believed the lies about more money for the NHS etc if we leave. And the EU Army. And the £350m per week. It was all lies. I thought people knew that.

The thing that gets me is that NO ONE knows what will happen, it's a period of great uncertainty and unrest, things could be great, things might not.

I didn't vote because I wanted to leave but was scared of the repercussions on the UK and of change, I was so split I just didn't want to have my say.

We have two years to make negotiations, it could be a great opportunity for us, but unfortunately with big changes like this there will be (hopefully) temporary uncertainty and problems such as we have seen already with job losses and financial distress.

As a country we face hard and possibly amazing times ahead, but it will be made worse by tearing strips off one another for having differing views. Leave won and all we can do now is unite as a country and get through it.

You can say what you want about us but at the end of the day we are on the right side of history

No you're not. You just don't realise it yet. Cameron will go down as one of the worst PMs in history - the man who lost England the EU and probably Scotland too.

I never even voted because I was unsure and I'm also getting flamed for it lol

And yes, there was the comment from the Op about the retainers looking into the thing more. I did (environmental impacts, economic impacts, I migrations impacts, information from Norway who are outside the EU and how it affects them,....)
I would like to know the information that the Op used, in return.

For example, last year 126 laws came into force in the UK. 4 were made in the EU. 122 in the UK. So please explain how we are wresting control back from Brussels. We always had control.
Trade deals. It's taken 8 years and counting for the EU and Canada to agree a trade deal. Canada has said that same deal won't now be valid for Britain. And we will come as a weaker partner to the negotiations so any deal we do negotiate will be less favourable for us. China, for example. Need Britain a lot less for trade than we need them so they will be able to dictate terms that suit them. As part of the EU, that wasn't true.
Someone please give some Brexit facts. Facts about laws and how that will make a difference, or facts about trade deals that might work in our favour, because I can't find any.

I voted leave, but even I think you're starting to sound like a complete and utter plonker OP.
But then, that's been your aim all along.
I strongly suspect that's what you want people to think.
I'm right, aren't I?

The hypocrisy of voting for sovereignty' but not caring about Scotland leaving is astounding. Presumably you also don't care that troubles in the north of Ireland may well be reignited now?

No-one deserves abuse for anything. Abuse is always wrong.

But it isn't abusive to point out that it s very clear that on average, the less education an individual has had, the more likely they were to vote leave. Mainly, I reckon, because of people who believed lies like an EU army and didn't know how to, or bother to, research the veracity of such claims.

you have no idea what youre even saying

It would be funny if the consequences of such twaddle weren't so catastrophic.

I think to be on the "right side of history" you might need the benefit of time to show this .. you cannot re-write history on the day, dear

You're vote was emotional and not on facts it was how you felt. The poor will suffer the most. Celebrate while you can.

Nobody knows for sure what the consequences will be now, just as nobody knew for certain if or how the EU may change in the years to come

They do though. You don't have to know much about politics and economics to know what the consequences are - if you don't know you shouldn't be voting.

AmyWatt1972

The EU are not "sending us refugees". We are only accepting the refugees we have agreed to take. UK has/had a veto on this issue. This is the sort of muddled thinking that I am so disheartened by.

Added to that, if you think the French will continue to police the border the way they do now, I think you may be in for something of a surprise. I have no count the bilateral agreement currently in place will not stand for long. The French will happily wave them on through to the UK for us to deal with them at the border as it will save them a lot of time, effort and money. The camps you see at Calais may well move over to Southern England.

You may find that your dream of a foreigner/refugee free UK may not be as achievable as you think.

I would like anyone who is so sure that this country is fucked provide proof, not opinion but actual solid proof, that is the case

You'll get solid proof soon enough. And it will be too late for remorse.

sorry, should be "no doubt" not "no count".

Eu are trying to force us to take in the refugees though and open borders for them

Source?

Out of interest, what convention do you actually believe governs the treatment of refugees?

The petulant "it's my democratic right to vote however I want" seems to be only argument brexiters are able to summon now,

Why do they need to provide any sort of argument or justification at all? It is their right to vote however they want, just as it is yours and everyone elses. Its done. So instead of haranging people to tell you why they voted the way they did, save your energy and come to peace with the situation as it is.