I want people to tell me why they voted #leave

[AliceScarlett]

I'm feeling pretty shocked and scared right now.

Why did you vote for brexit?

*Hopeful

*scared Clearly brexit has removed my ability to proof read

Aren't the Tories just going to abandon the human rights act and European Convention now? Or just pick and choose what they want?

I find that terrifying.

Life is shit for a lot of people, it's got shitter over the last ten years without any sign of it getting better. In fact, it feels like it's getting worse, with no hope of a decent job / university / houses /NHS for some people's children.

caused by neo liberalism, globalisation, UK government policy, austerity, council house sell off etc - not EU.

Aren't the Tories just going to abandon the human rights act and European Convention now? Or just pick and choose what they want?

Do some research. You know, look up the facts. There's information on this out there.

All these polls mean nothing unless the people they polled actually went out and cast their vote along with the other Remainers who they didn't poll. Turnout is what wins elections/referendums, not poll data.

My 22 year old (Masters degree in Business) voted to remain but, whilst he is disappointed with the result, he isn't accusing anyone of ruining his future. He doesn't feel that the sky is falling in as he knows that we can survive outside the EU even though it's going to be tough. He also thinks we need to invoke Article 50 ASAP and start negotiating a decent exit deal.

He feels that people should stop bitching and start pulling together as this current atmosphere of hatred and blame is helping nobody. He doesn't think another referendum should be forced by, for example, a general election. He said that it was a democratic vote and the result should be accepted because ignoring/eroding democracy is far worse than leaving the EU.

Flying in the face of the opinion polls, quite a large percentage of his (well educated, similar age) friends on Facebook actually voted to leave. Most of them gave good reasons for their decision and he could understand their point of view in terms of how they felt it would benefit them.

His attitude vs some of the stuff I've seen on here has me bursting with (even more) pride.

Yes, I worry that we've had Tory-lite so far, and now without the EU being able to temper the government and to hold them in check, we're going to get Tory-max.

KissMyArse

Perhaps if your son had a career, mortgage, pension he would take a different view.

We are going to have a hard right government.

Kiss Very impressed with your son and his friends. Gives me hope honestly, as what I've seen on here is childish and appalling.

I'm not quite sure why it's being said up-thread that the EU is democratic. In summary, EU laws are proposed by Commissioners who are proposed by national governments and appointed by agreement, ie, no member state has an absolute right over their choice. Furthermore, their legal responsiblity is not to their "home" state but the EU as a whole.

The EU Parliament, which is elected, cannot propose or revise legislation. It can only pass or veto it.

If that's democracy then it's no kind I know.

KissMyArse, your son sounds like he's got his head well screwed on.

I wish him all the best for his future & hope that there are thousands more out there just like him who are now rolling their sleeves up & pulling together to make this work.

It can work, change is a positive thing - so long as people pull together and embrace the positives that change can bring.

caused by neo liberalism, globalisation, UK government policy, austerity, council house sell off etc - not EU.
It's absolutely been a catalogue of reasons and causes. They voted for change as things can't get any shitter for them and being in the eu feels like it's doing the opposite of helping.
Not to mention the magical amount of money that UKIP have spent twenty times over.
Like that picture says if you've not a lot to lose, you've nothing to lose.
ALOT of people are living that, feeling that it's a shitty life only getting shitier.

But Ghost, a whole generation of young people in their 20s and 30s currently haven't been able to get a career or mortgage for years.

I'm 27 and graduated into a recession. My sister is 32 and worked in her Saturday job full-time for 2 years post graduation because there was nothing else.

Lots of my school friends are on zero hours contracts because there are no other jobs in our hometown. How is that a career? They will never be able to get a mortgage.

Five of my peers have mortgages. And that's only because they are buying with a partner, lived with parents rent-free for years and were also given help from family. This is in the North West. Friends who are building careers in London will probably never buy.

This has all been while in the EU. I can't blame people who want to get a career, mortgage and eventually a pension for wanting change.

kiss your son is spot on, we need to get on with it. It can work of course it can. But we need to stop running round like headless chickens, stop panicking and make it work. Otherwise it will cause more unrest leading to companies like Nissan certainly jumping ship, where before they were going to stay

jamie your spot on zero hours contracts are bull shit for anyone trying to build a life. Even trying to rent is near impossible with one. How do you organise childcare or nursery for them?
Great for a flexible student living at home. Not so great for a family

Perhaps if your son had a career, mortgage, pension he would take a different view.

He already has 2 out of 3 (no mortgage yet).

kiss What a breath of fresh air. In my experience that is what most people feel, in or out. Lets move forward. Many benefits from EU can be adopted and negotiated on our terms. Just a small example, Switzerland, Lichtenstein are in EEC so can use EHIC cards. We have a reciprocal agreement with Australia and NZ over health care. Not being in the EU is not the apocalypse.

I am originally from the Middle East. I have lived in the UK for over 30 years. I have a British passport. I do NOT have duel nationality. I love this country and have worked hard and paid taxes all my life. Yesterday, a number of work colleagues (laughingly) suggested that I may now have to "go home" due to Brexit vote. This is the atmosphere that Brexit has created and we now have to live in....I am fearful for the future

Jamievardysparty

None of your problems were caused by the EU!

Tuition fees, the council house sell off, BTL landlords, zero hour contracts, curtailed union rights, privatisation all caused by UK government policy.

The problem is globalisation and neo liberalism. That is going nowhere. Your situation will only get worse as Britain embarks on economic turmoil

He already has 2 out of 3 (no mortgage yet).

Then Brexit will create uncertainty for him.

I no longer live in the UK or Europe, so actually my situation will not be affected. Thank you for your concern though.

My point, which you spectacularly missed, was that numerous people do not have careers or pensions and are not allowed mortgages anyway - even with the UK as part of the EU.

As such, I can totally understand why people have embraced the opportunity for change, even if they are unsure what this will bring.

When you have nothing to lose, why wouldn't you go for change?

At no point did I say that it was the fault of the EU.

user Sadly that says more about your work colleagues than i does about the majority of leave voters. There are ignorant people on both sides.

They have voted for pie in the sky. The rich will get richer. The poor will get poorer. Houses will not be more easily attainable, employment will not get more secure.

The EU has invested money into deprived areas. Areas that have now voted out in favour of Nigel Farages false dawn.

ghosto You know all this do you? Or are you the prophet of doom?