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I want people to tell me why they voted #leave

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AliceScarlett · 24/06/2016 05:12

I'm feeling pretty shocked and scared right now.

Why did you vote for brexit?

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SouperSal · 25/06/2016 01:38

More than I'll find of your mysterious %12 of eu laws (you helped to draft) some say up to 65%.

Some said we gave the EU £350m a week. That turned out to be a porkie too. Wink

Pocketrocket31 · 25/06/2016 01:39

I never said said they did, it was wrong to do, wrong to carry on doing. That doesn't alter the fact it was done. U.K. Citizens have and are suffering for it, while eu nationals can come and get a house/b&b/housing benefit out of a already massively stretched and failing system. When ppl say "oh they have to work before they can get any benefits" are wrong. If they come here with kids and only the clothes on their back, they will get housed

Pocketrocket31 · 25/06/2016 01:41

Well they're all full of them aren't they, the emergency July budged, risk to pensions... Another massive porkie

mathanxiety · 25/06/2016 01:42

Free to strike our own trade deals that suit out need's...
Is this how you imagine trade deals work? The reality is that Britain will come cap in hand begging other countries for trade. Britain can no longer send the Navy a little offshore to frighten people into having their markets flooded with goods stamped 'Made in Britain'.

I voted leave to have a better system of immigration so that entry level jobs are there for the younger generation to forge their own path.
You mean instead of that notorious EU programme, Workfare?
And how exactly will leaving the EU ensure that Britain's education system starts turning out teenagers who can read and write sufficiently well to function in a job?

...all I see is people being called "racist" and "stupid" for having exercised their democratic choice and the winner was democracy with a good turnout and amount of votes
And ironically those same people will now have a PM they didn't vote for - "TBA" in a few months - and will also have to deal with an exit settlement which nobody can forecast but which will affect Britain for generations.

And as pointed out in the Philip Collins article in The Times (linked by JudyC), a little cabal in the Tory Party basically rode roughshod over the result of last year's General Election (and also the Scottish Referendum) revealing their utter contempt for democracy. That's what the Leave vote foisted upon Britain, and more importantly, that's WHO the Leave vote foisted upon Britain.

Pocketrocket31 · 25/06/2016 01:42

I was a civil servant, dishing out emergency giro's back in the day. It was bad enough then. Much worse now. U.K. Can't afford its own free loaders, never mind the eu's

SouperSal · 25/06/2016 01:48

emergency July budged, risk to pensions.

People have lost money on their pension funds today. Might only be on paper, but they have. (My neighbour is 64 and is due to retire in about a month. He lost £45k from his pension fund today.)

And we're not in July yet. How can we know if there will be an emergency budget yet?! Confused

SouperSal · 25/06/2016 01:49

I'll have to look into the EU nationals and housing thing tomorrow. Need sleep now. But it sounds like a Daily Mail journo's wet dream to me.

mathanxiety · 25/06/2016 02:19

And yeah, the upcoming Emergency Budget. Pig in a poke, much? Who voted for that?

mathanxiety · 25/06/2016 02:21

The Cabal also flipped the bird to the Good Friday Agreement, probably because they forgot completely about NI.

Marching season is just around the corner.

WeDoNotSow · 25/06/2016 02:34

I thought this was quite interesting, as all I've been hearing is how good liberals should vote remain?

WeDoNotSow · 25/06/2016 02:42

Or this?

mamamea · 25/06/2016 03:38

The reality is that Brexit was achieved by millions and millions of left-wing voters who followed the wisdom of Tony Benn and others, who firmly rejected the EU back in the 70s. Unlike Jeremy Corbyn, a Brexiter until he became Labour leader, they never wavered.

mathanxiety · 25/06/2016 07:05

Irish Times article that is very interesting.

itsstillgood · 25/06/2016 07:18

I voted leave for too many reasons to list. However it was not because I disagree with immigration, I have absolutely no doubt it benefits Britain. My problem with EU migration is that I don't think someone from Poland should have more rights to come here than someone from Algeria for example. I don't really want to reduce immigration what I would like is every one regardless of race, religion, country of origin treated fairly. I think Europe is just another form of border between the white west and the rest of the world.

The far right is rising all over Europe and it worries me that it will seep into European politics and there is nothing we can do. I was pro-Europe until last year really when the way Europe as a whole reacted to the migrant crisis sickened me.

The biggest reason I left is nothing to do with this country really. I think Europe it self is going to tear apart in the next 10 years. There are too many opposing views across the continent and they are growing more and more opposing. Merkel is leading and the moment and holding it together. Not exactly democratic but I think she's the voice of reason. What happens if she is voted out? I believe a political storm and a financial crash across Europe is inevitable in the none to distant future. I would have preferred another two or three years before having to make the decision in the hope that my concerns would be proved wrong.

I really, really wished we could have engaged in sensible adult debate before this. I know a handful of leave voters and not one person took it with out a lot of soul searching, a lot of research and some reluctance.

Democracy has said out. I totally get the worried and disappointed from the remain, you have a complete right to that. There people who voted out and who are celebrating and claiming Independence Day are in the minority. Most of us are adult enough to know a financial disaster and unrest would follow. Social media the last few days has felt like mass bullying and it is nasty.

What we need now is to stop blaming each other and start working towards the future. We need a general election before the exit negotiations start so whoever goes in to lead the negotiations has a democratic mandate. Parties could say we'll be campaigning to negotiate being part of EEA or EFTA. They could even say we aren' t going to trigger section 50, we're going to ignore the referendum. Sour taste at the second but it would be possible.

Let's focus on using democracy to take us forward.

loobieloo32 · 25/06/2016 07:29

What exactly are people who voted leave expecting to happen now? What changes did you think would happen? What is it you are celebrating?

Because I've not seen a single person who voted leave say this in direct terms, I've seen lots of independence day/vague immigration/we got our country back posts but none on specifics

FloatIsRechargedNow · 25/06/2016 07:39

Two reasons - land mass and public services.

downright · 25/06/2016 07:40

There's a specific topic for this ---->

itsstillgood · 25/06/2016 07:44

I voted leave and what I expected was a remaining win by a lot and to shrug, sigh and accept the voice of democracy. What I thought would happen in light of a out vote is chaos and financial collapse, exactly what we have. I am not celebrating, really not. I am cautiously optimistic that if we can get our act together then hopefully we can start dealing with all the problems we have and start pulling ourselves up and not get burned too badly when the problems across Europe escalate politically and financially. I think a recession is inevitable unfortunately.

derxa · 25/06/2016 08:26

Most of us are adult enough to know a financial disaster and unrest would follow I don't think that was the case.

SpaceKablooie · 25/06/2016 08:32

I absolutely agree with some of the posts here - I've only heard vague hand-wavey reasons ('taking back our country' etc.) IRL and on MN from those voting Leave. I just want to shout Okay, but what do you actually MEAN? AngrySad. I think that some people have seriously under-thought this.

I know that I need to accept this and get on with things, but I don't live in the country that I thought I did any more.

GingerIvy · 25/06/2016 08:36

I absolutely agree with some of the posts here - I've only heard vague hand-wavey reasons ('taking back our country' etc.) IRL and on MN from those voting Leave. I just want to shout Okay, but what do you actually MEAN? angrysad. I think that some people have seriously under-thought this.

You're missing the point. NOBODY has to justify their vote to you or anyone else.

I know that I need to accept this and get on with things, but I don't live in the country that I thought I did any more.

Right there with you on that. The amount of pissing and moaning on here and the number of people trying to derail democracy is staggering. Perhaps a change is in order - from "Keep calm and carry on" to "Throw a strop and moan." Hmm

SpaceKablooie · 25/06/2016 08:44

Ginger, if I'd voted for one of the most de-stabilising things to affect the UK in living memory, I bloody hope I'd be able to justify it to myself and others.

GingerIvy · 25/06/2016 08:48

Pfft. That's rubbish. Nobody is required to justify their vote. People are just whinging and moaning at this point, when it's barely 24 hours in.

SquidgeyMidgey · 25/06/2016 08:49

You're missing the point. NOBODY has to justify their vote to you or anyone else.
Not asking for justification, asking what Leave actually plan to do now they're 'in'.

FrancesNiadova · 25/06/2016 08:52

I won £8.70 on the €uromillions last night. Sad
Proud to be a British European & voted remain.

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