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to ask if this is a weird way to 'do' kids bedtime?

204 replies

alificent · 10/06/2016 23:52

After browsing Facebook and reading other threads on here tonight, I've noticed lots of people saying about having put the kids to bed ages ago but them still crashing around, having to keep going up to them etc.

I read to all my DC together then give the middle ones different books to look at while I take the eldest to her room and tuck her in. I have a little chat with her then I sit in the room with the middle DC and breastfeed the baby. Within ten minutes they are all asleep. It never occurred to me to 'leave them to it' until they ask for me to do so. Does anyone else do bedtime like this or am I in the minority?

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ArgyMargy · 11/06/2016 09:51

Yawn another AIBU thread where someone posts what they do and in all future posts insists that what they do is the correct thing blah blah blah.

Egosumquisum · 11/06/2016 10:00

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ReginaBlitz · 11/06/2016 10:02

Well bully for you! But fuck that we have to much shit to do. The worse that's happened is they decided to paint the bedroom.. Beds..quilts.. And carpet because twatto here left the tin of paint in their room after painting... But hey ho you live and you learn. Still. Wouldn't sit up there with them though.

Lweji · 11/06/2016 10:03

I really never worried about what others did or not. DS used to like me sitting with him and we'd have great quiet chats until he felt too tired or fell asleep. It's the time when we talked about anything that worried him.
He's 11 now and I tuck him in bed and leave. Sometimes he asks me to be there for a few minutes then says I can leave. Usually when something is bothering him.

If it works for your family, don't worry about it.

FurryLittleTwerp · 11/06/2016 10:16

We never sat with DS when he was little - one or other of us would go back once or twice if he shouted for us but if it became clear he was just mucking about we would be firm & not go back again. On occasion he would appear downstairs & would be swiftly zoomed back up again Grin

I think it important they learn to fall asleep by themselves.

countingkids123 · 11/06/2016 10:17

I sat with mine until they were asleep. I did it for 6 years. Every night. On Sunday I told them it has to change, and that after their story kiss and cuddle I will be turning the light off and going downstairs. I've told them my reasons. They're not happy about it and have been upset with me, but we are working on it. I still sleep in the same room as them so they're not totally on their own, an they've got each other. I just can't keep lying down with them until they fall asleep (which has seemed to be getting later and later lately). We will tackle the issue of their own bedrooms at a later date once we've sorted the issue of getting them to fall asleep without me with them.

QuietNinjaTardis · 11/06/2016 10:23

10 minutes! hollow laugh if I had kids that fell asleep in ten minutes then I wouldn't mind sitting there either. As it is both kids will fuck about (on their own) my son is worse but it doesn't matter how worn out he is he still bounces off the walls until he crashes. My daughter will play with her toys but is normally asleep within half an hour.

catkind · 11/06/2016 10:31

So much judgement both ways! It's fine either way. Really. Or rather, there will be the odd problem and annoyance whatever you do but it'll work out fine in the end. If it works for you OP I'd stick with it.

We sat with/lay with. Then they learned to read and can now be left happily reading and turn their own lights off when ready. Didn't require any major trauma to switch.
I was left at bedtime as a child, and am still rubbish at going to sleep. It doesn't follow. I don't enforce early bedtimes as I can vividly remember the boredom of lying clock watching for hours when I wasn't tired enough to sleep. Kids left to their own devices also go to sleep late and still wake full of beans at 7. So maybe a genetic component in needing less sleep?

shrunkenhead · 11/06/2016 10:52

For us it's been a continuation of what we've always done when dd was a baby: bath, milk, teeth, stories/songs/tuck her in/goodnight kiss and leave. She's seven now and the routine is pretty much the same. Sometimes I'll stay with her for a ten minute chat as she sometimes asks questions. Occasionally I'll stay with her or she'll fall asleep mid chapter (yes, I know she can read to herself but she enjoys me reading trickier books to her and I still enjoy reading to her, and if I'm honest I still love being read to today!). She only takes 10 muns max to drop off or if I have stuff to do/am busy she'll say "it's ok, mummy, you can get on with your jobs ".
It's probably easier for me only having one and we have an early bed time 7 - 7.30pm which may sound too early but she is genuinely shattered and in need of sleep.

Woodhill · 11/06/2016 11:13

I just wanted some time to myself. Mine weren't too bad but sometimes went to bed later and dd was sleeping there.

MagicMonkeys · 11/06/2016 12:03

I sit with ds too, I read to him, and he's usually asleep in 10 mins, my sisters children are as you've described and she refuses to read to them :/

m0therofdragons · 11/06/2016 12:10

Well, like you, my dds a brilliant sleepers but you are very naive to assume all dc are the same. Some dc keep getting up and coming downstairs, some play around. I never stay until my dc are asleep anymore as they are old enough for story, kiss, cuddle and tuck them in and they go to sleep. That's what works for me and my dc but I know only part of this is my parenting and part is luck. Actually, if I'm in the room they keep remembering things to tell me. Also how do you stay in the room until they sleep if you have more than 1 dc?
Yabu and annoyingly smug.

cornishglos · 11/06/2016 13:11

I have always sat with my kids until they are asleep. It works for us and doesn't take long. After stories they are not allowed to talk or I leave. Anyone else putting them to bed just leaves and they're fine, but I don't want to leave and they don't want me to. No crashing around though, ever.

flumpybear · 11/06/2016 13:55

If I sat with mine they would just chat lol! DS is 4 and sleeps straight away, DD is 7 and is a night owl ... They're all different and we all do whatever works for us

MiscellaneousAssortment · 11/06/2016 19:36

I think it's personal and it's somewhat depressing to read the smugness and judgement on both sides.

We do what we do and change when we need to. That's it really.

Teresalosingtheirleaves · 11/06/2016 20:11

Smug face ....

lemonny · 11/06/2016 20:15

You seem to think all children are the same. They're not.

HTH.

JasperDamerel · 11/06/2016 20:15

I think the difference is that yours fall asleep in ten minutes, while other children can take hours to fall asleep.

I used to spend 2 hours or so each night sitting with DD, but now that she is older, she gets to read until lights out.

blueskywithclouds · 11/06/2016 20:58

What happens if your children wake in the night op? Do they need you to sit with them?
My sister was very strict with bedtimes for her first child. She was taught to self settle and she never stayed in the room. She is a great sleeper.
Then my second niece came along and was breast fed so she found it easier to cosleep. She is now 4yrs old and has to have someone sitting with her for 1.5hrs to sleep. Then she wakes at 1am and cannot self settle so ends up back in their bed. It took months to even get her to fall asleep in her own bed.
My point is, children are different. My sister really regrets not being stricter with bedtimes with my second niece. She is sleep deprived years later. It's fine if you don't resent it.
If you enjoy it, and they only take 10mins then great! I wouldn't personally start the habit as I need my evenings. I would also be scared that things would snowball.

Grilledaubergines · 11/06/2016 21:09

I go up with DC, chat to them whilst they wash and get changed and then sit on their bed for a ten minute chat with them. I give them a kiss and a cuddle and that's it, they snuggle down and I come downstairs. Always done this and it's always worked because they're usually shattered by bedtime so fall asleep within minutes of me leaving them.

ToDuk · 11/06/2016 21:19

Op what do you do when you go out? Does the babysitter have to sit up with them?

We did the opposite to this. Nice bedtime chats and stories then nighty night and we leave them to it. We don't expect to go up and intervene with anything. They like the peace and quiet of time in their own rooms reading and thinking so they wouldn't want us in there. I'm glad it works this way for us as I also like a bit of space once they're in bed and certainly don't want that to start after 9pm. But I don't give two hoots what anyone else does.

corythatwas · 11/06/2016 21:35

bluesky, allowing children to come into your bed doesn't necessarily result in anyone being sleep deprived: I found I actually got a better quality of sleep with small snuggly body nearby.

Didn't interfere with our sex life either: to be honest, we weren't often doing it at 1 or 2 in the morning.

Know it's very frowned on in this country: where I come from it's quite normal.

ChishandFips33 · 11/06/2016 22:13

I think your routine is lovely - you're not doing it because you have to as they can settle on their own but because it's quality family time

BertieBotts · 11/06/2016 22:27

Can only answer for myself - but yes if DS woke in the night he's always been welcome in my/our bed (was a lone parent when he was little). After a while he used to get very wriggly and I'd say to him "If you want to move around you have to go back to your bed" and he'd say "Okay" and either stop moving or go back to bed. I had a stairgate on the stairs. I did have to take him back the first couple of times and then I'd stay if I felt like it or sometimes I did just say I need to sleep now and go, he was usually fine with it.

He was in a full sized single bed at two though for this reason. I liked being able to settle him by lying down with him, it just made sense to me. I have never seen the appeal of a cot. (I do think bedside cots are brilliant). I'm not crass enough to call them "wooden baby cages" (which I've heard and always feel a bit Hmm) but they seem horribly impractical to me in the way that you have to lift the baby in and out and they can't get in and out on their own. I appreciate that's the whole point Grin

Since DS was about five he doesn't like sharing his bed space at all. He will occasionally come in for a cuddle in the night but he usually goes back to bed shortly afterwards. Lately he doesn't even do that, he just comes and wakes us up if he needs us or deals with whatever it is himself if he doesn't.

There is a theory that if you co sleep etc when they are little as much as they want they'll have had their fill and stop wanting it any more, whereas if you're pushing against it and trying to encourage them to sleep alone then they're more likely to want to sleep in with you because they haven't had it/done it, if that makes sense. I don't think it's possible to say whether it's true but I do wonder if that's where people get this idea that if you let them sleep with you for a little bit they'll never get out of your bed from. It doesn't seem to be a problem among, OK, for want of a better word, AP circles. Perhaps that's down to something else like being frightened to admit there is a problem in case people think you are uncaring or perhaps it's just different expectations to begin with and not a situation others would be happy with. Or maybe there is something in the theory - I don't really know.

Re babysitters, I barely ever left DS when he was little anyway because I was really clingy over him. Yep, I'm not doing great for this stereotype. When I did leave him it would be with family/someone I was close to so I felt like it wasn't a big ask. It's not like babysitting an older child anyway - you do expect to be a bit more hands on with a baby. I was also really laid back about routine so if DS didn't fall asleep until I got back or if he fell asleep downstairs on the sofa, it didn't matter to me. In actual fact most of the time he settled much easier for other people than he ever did for me, which I hear is very common. There were a couple of times when he just stayed up until I got home (or tried to). I always left breast milk or cow's milk and a bottle in case he wanted that kind of comfort to go off to sleep too.

Vickyyyy · 11/06/2016 22:35

We put them down and they settle themselves, usually after half an hour of giggling on with each other.

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