AIBU to think Katie Hopkins is even more of a tw--a--it...

[GigiB]

.. she really is. Check out this headline:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3627352/KATIE-HOPKINS-Welcome-Midsummer-madness-Ramadan.html

who wants to help me plot how to get her put in a box and posted to the north pole with no ski's?

She specifically states Ramadan is a month of vengeance while referencing Muslims in the UK throughout the whole article
She is making a link between British Muslims and isis

Katie Hopkins really should be ignored, because only then will she go away.

But Mumsnet is full of Daily Mail readers, who constantly bring that shite over here and we all end up doing anything but ignoring KH.

I must learn to ignore

Also she says Britain 'hosts' Muslims. No it doesn't fucking host me. I was born here. I'm British

Yes herethere. I posted above that mistakes can happen for any reason. You have no idea that the reason behind it was his fasting. How did you now btw if you were only a witness?

I also said that of course you can break the day if you have to. Feeling unwell
Is part of that.

It's not 20 hours its worked out when sun is setting not dark man on the 1 show earlier said it was 9 15 he was breaking his fast

Break the fast

Wow.
Being against religion in general is fine but the Hopkins woman is clearly anti- Muslim. Banging on about ISIS, big public events and terrorist attacks is clearly designed to encourage prejudice and fear. As is making no clear distinction between terrorists and your average Muslim.
The reality is that the majority of Muslims will just quietly got on with their day. Many say that the fast actually helps clear the mind and aids concentration.
Many Doctors will try to rearrange their shifts, those that can't often take annual leave. It is also possible to not fast on some days, provided the person makes restitution before the next Ramadan, so they fast at a different time.
KH says "employers are advised to allow workers to log and work after they have broken fast", all the guidance I have seen simply states that employers should CONSIDER requests swap shifts, flexible working or annual leave. She states as fact, that Muslim employees getting extra breaks and time off work. They aren't. Breaks are worked for and time off comes out of annual leave. The fact is that the overwhelming majority of Muslims just get on with it. Stating opinion as fact and making unsubstantiated claims like in this article is what fuels resentment and anger against an entire community.

I wonder if there is any way to check the HSE equivalent stats from the Muslim countries where temperatures are regularly much MUCH higher than they have been here today? Is there an epidemic of scaffolders being killed after fainting and plunging to their deaths, cars crashing into bridges after the drivers collapse at the wheel, do hospital mortality rates sky rocket due to surgeons suffering dizzy spells and subsequently accidentally their patient's slashing aortas? Or are Muslims just like the rest of us and mature and responsible enough to avoid activities where they might kill themselves and others due to fatigue and/or mitigate against such eventualities?

Thant is exactly what she is doing crystal muslm = Isis its hate speech she is a fucking disgrace for a human being

Indeed rugby

My DH has taken all Friday's off this month. Those are days out of his leave which he is perfectly entitled to.

Because he was obviously shaken up so whilst first aiders were dealing with the child I asked him if he'd like me to get him something like a cup of tea (we were beside a parade of shops). He said no as he was fasting. It was during ramadan at the time and his passenger was wearing a hijab so I think it was safe to assume it wasn't any other sort of fast.

I'd like to see the effect of fasting on reaction times. It could also be extrapolated to fasting for health rather than religious reasons.

I know mrs. And I despair of the posters who say oh well she kind of has a point

Katie Hopkins is an oxygen thief who is probably reading this thread to feed her ego.

What's worse are the numptie stay believe the vitriol that is spewed from her cake hole or those who say 'well, how she's said it is wrong but she does have a point'
No she fucking doesn't!

That would be helpful of course, Pigsbum,
but daytime here is longer, and Ramadan being in the month with the longesst days in the year is what makes it more challenging.

Can I quickly add when I was in prem labour my amazing midwife (there were 2 )was hhelping drink water and all yhe rest of it. It wasny long until fast was opening when I found out she was fasting and I couldn't stop thanking her. She had been wonderful. She opened her fast beside me(didnt want to leave me with just1mw and it was a sloooow process)
She amazed me that day. I was very high risk and she stayed calm

Or Pigsbum might the odd child get run over and no one ever collate the statistics?

here you a reputable place for stats on accidents: scroll down

wikiislam.net/wiki/Adverse_Effects_of_Islamic_Fasting

Might not be current data but it is still worthwhile data

*n 1994, the Accident and Emergency Department of St Mary's Hospital in London conducted a study to examine if accident and emergency attendances increased during Ramadan for Muslim patients. At the time, the department was treating 55,000 new patients every year:

The results are shown in Table 1. This demonstrates a significant rise in the number of Muslims attending during Ramadan compared to non-Muslims, with the proportion of Muslims rising from 3.63% of total attendances in the periods before and after Ramadan to 5.11% during Ramadan (P=0.0024). The rise in non accident-related attendances among Muslims was also significant when compared to non-Muslims (P=0.027) *

Look, it's just silly to say KH has no point. She does have a point that it is not ideal that people have to function in their daily lives with no food or water all day. These people can't be at their best when they are dehydrated and distracted.

Where some posters seem to be a bit confused is the odd conclusion KH draws from there that the fasting therefore shouldn't be allowed, as if she is in charge of the world. As if her pronouncements and judgements are at all relevant to anything. She has some sort of megolamania problem.

She's a vile piece of shit, whether she's trolling/attention whoring, or a for real fascist.

Not even clicking on that to give her the illusion she has a single other person to add to her readership.

She should have been prosecuted for hate crimes long since and it's a national disgrace that she hasn't been.

Equating bombers (individual radicals) with Ramadan (holy month for 1.3bn followers of islam).. She should be sacked and charged.

I'd like to see them get the charges to stick. Not when you have mullahs issuing fatwas saying that you'll get extra Jihadi points in paradise if you kill some non-believers during Ramadan. And probably a couple of extra virgins thrown if you get the holy Friday bonus too.

400 people were killed and almost 400 people were injured on one Friday during last Ramadan in Islamist attacks. The US state department has already issued warnings regarding terror during Ramadan. And there has already been a terror attack in Jordan on the first day of Ramadan.

You can't prosecute someone for making a link between terror and Ramadan that demonstratably contains truth just because that link doesn't suit you or you don't like the messenger.

She should have been prosecuted for hate crimes long since and it's a national disgrace that she hasn't been.

Even if what she's saying is true?

Because look how well that turned out with Nick Griffin when they tried to prosecute him for saying underage girls were being abused by Pakistani grooming gangs.

Oh.

Thank you Spectre.

I genuinely want there to be no grain of a point in anything Katie Hopkins writes!

If there is no increased risk of harm to self and others then the evidence proves Katie wrong. Yay! If the evidence proves there is a risk I's be looking to the Muslim community to come up with ways of addressing that. If there is no evidence either way I think it's something worth studying in further detail.

I used to work near the Regents Park mosque in London. During Ramadan we'd see many people who had driven into London for the day to worship at the mosque rather than their local one. Logically if there are more Muslims in Central London during Ramadan then naturally more are likely to attend a London a&e than at other times of the year . Whether the fast is also a contributing factor isn't quantifiable from the data quoted.

I work with a cross section of people , some are Muslim and as we work a late shift we try to make sure their break times coincide with the time to break fast (no point in giving them a lunch break at 8pm if fast ends at 9pm). In eight years it hasn't caused any problems if a slip up is made with times we swop a break between us or get it rescheduled. No big deal. Hopkins is just making herself sound foolish in this matter.

The Quran clearly states if you kill an innocent person its like you've killed all of mankind and if you save an innocent person its like you've saved all mankind.

Someone once did a comparison between the bible and the quran and the bible had more violent words in it (by a few hundred iirc) and the quran had more peaceful words
ive actually just been reading the quran in English and ive cone across the whole like mankind phrase a few times.

Isis are not real muslims. Nor are the taliban.
Killing innocent people. The quran doesnt call for it at all

Anyone would think Muslims were the only religion to fast if you listened to the dimwits .