AIBU to think Katie Hopkins is even more of a tw--a--it...

[GigiB]

.. she really is. Check out this headline:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3627352/KATIE-HOPKINS-Welcome-Midsummer-madness-Ramadan.html

who wants to help me plot how to get her put in a box and posted to the north pole with no ski's?

I have never known anyone to be given time off work, or leave early because they are fasting. If you read her article she also vomits about women leaving work early to pick up their kids. She's a fucking bitch who needs to be ignored. Plus I've never gotten over her calling the papa to photograph her having sex in a field - what a skank!

*calling the paps

I think that if you or your husband are in any way not fit to do your job and pose danger to yourselves or other then yes, work should send you home, whatever the reason for your inability, Buttock.

I did some quick googling and couldn't find an example of someone dying due to someone else fasting. Sadly a few where those fasting had died though

I'd so love to see her face when she turns down dr only to get dr chardonnay instead.

I'd pay to see that!!!

She is a bitch and all that stuff about terrorists and slackers working for the public sector is like a giant Daily Mail cocktail of rant.

But (and perhaps I should ask this elsewhere) how do those fasting for such long stretches stay safe to themselves and others? I man the ones who actually fast and don't have a religious reason to not partake?

I ask in part because last year I witnessed a child be run over on a pedestrian crossing. The driver had looked at the light (flashing amber) but not the crossing itself (child was already half way across). He was also a fasting Muslim. It may well be an 'accidents happen to anyone moment' but what particularly bothered me was he was also a driving instructor (in the car with the L box on top etc) so I would have expected a higher standard of care than your average driver. I wondered whether his fast had played a part in his error.

Genuinely what are the safeguards? If you feel faint are you allowed to break the fast? If you do make a serious error as in the example above can you eat/drink then? Have any studies been done on fasting and reaction times?

Giles?

I agree with her

Well she worries about being treated by a Muslim dr as they may be too hungry to work properly....

she hates anyone called Kylie, chardonnay etc...

would he an. interesting stand off at her surgery

Taking the religion out of it, I would not want to be operated on by somebody who hadn't eaten all day.

Not in 1960, not now. I don't think there was as much publicity about these practices as there is now.

People rode in cars with no set belts in 1960 as well. And drunk drove.

Yes for most in office jobs not a problem but like her article states one company is having to give all his muslim workers most of the month off because they operate machinery and had previously had an incident where one person lost their fingers. Will the non-Muslims at that firm get the same additional time off?

I know.
I was joking.

Oh. I started a thread about this too and wondered why it was so quiet
Everyone's here and a strange feeling of deja vu is in the air.

I've been here 7 years and every single year the same old stuff starts about Ramadan.

I always love how the Muslims on the threads are always always ignore like they have been here so far. Or if they are acknowledged their experiences are rubbished by posters who just know better.

To add to and reiterate a few points for those who clearly have never met a Muslim person in your life:

Muslims have been here since what the 50's? Certainly my lot were here then. So that's 50 odd years of fasting in the UK. They sky has not caved in yet. There are no mass deaths sweeping along the country because of fasting.

We eat and drink after sunset until sunrise. Yeh it's hard. But it moves back 10 days or so every year so soon we'll be back to the 4pm sunsets. That's when I was at school...it was great!

No one is dying of thirst here. It was 24 degrees today. Get a grip. Millions of
Muslims are fasting in much hotter weather and their country is not falling to its knees either. The hyperbole is ridiculous.

Most Muslims don't expect preferential treatment. They just get on with their day. Maybe t is just human kindness that allows them to go home early or work from home or whatever. I know I would try to accommodate any colleague who needed it. In 20 years of fasting I haven't known a single person take the piss at work over a fast. The whole point of fasting is that it is meant to humble you not that you make a big hoo ha about it.

Gosh what else?? Any actual facts from anyone about all these terrible things that have happened here due to fasting? There are hundreds of thousands of Muslims in this country and if you can find more than a handful id be surprised.

Katie Hopkins has likened fasting to the actions of ISIS and said that this is a month of blowing things up and vengeance. She is insane. So Muslims fasting in the UK are now ISIS. That's what you're agreeing with here.

If you agree with Katie Hopkins you've crossed a crazy line or as Joey from Friends once said you haven't crossed the line. You're so far over the line you can't even see the line. The line is a dot to you

well Spectre, I don't suppose the owner of the firm is such a philanthropist that he gives the Muslim workers extra holiday; it probably comes out of their annual leave doesn't it?

have some lambrini of course

Anyone can make a mistake. Accidents happen for all sorts of reasons not just because someone was fasting. Of course you can break a fast if you need to!

I stay safe by just getting on with my day peacefully. Being quiet and less energetic.

Equating bombers (individual radicals) with Ramadan (holy month for 1.3bn followers of islam).. She should be sacked and charged.

I think the comment about bombers is referring to the suspected attacks rumoured to be planned for Ramadan, eg www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-safrica-idUSKCN0YQ0GU and to the attacks last year

crystal I did give the example of the child being run over. And I also asked some questions about rules for breaking the fast early. And whether the effects of fast have been the subject of a scientific study. I'm interested to know.

The people I know of muslim heritage are not observant.

Well said crystallgal

Actually, you don't know, maybe I am a doctor in RL.