AIBU to not know much about 'lady garden' maintenance!!

[Joolsy]

OK I'm sorry if I'm putting people off their breakfast. But I have never bothered much with doing anything about my hair 'down there'. I am not a hairy person so it's not like it's hugely overgrown(!). But all I really do is shave my bikini line, like once a year if I'm going on holiday (I don't wear a high-cut swimsuit). Seriously, what else do other people do? I'm worried now that I look like I'm smuggling a ferret down there whenever I go swimming. Should I be trimming it on a regular basis?

There certainly ARE minge police and they are the radical feminists. During a similar discussion to this one I mentioned that I've been shaving mine off completely for the past 30 years (just my personal choice) and I was accused of "promoting paedophilia" and then ejected and permanently blocked from the forum.

I've been seething about this ever since! Seeing as the only person other than me who sees my ladygarden is one other person, I don't see how I can be promoting anything. (Oh yeah, and that one other person also shaves completely, but the RFs don't object, since he is a man!)

Now I have read the entire thread I just want to point out that plenty of men shave completely, too, and are shaved in porn, but nobody "polices" this and tells them not to.

Not only does my current male sexual partner shave completely all the time, but when I had a casual fling a while back, that man was also completely shaved.

Seems to me that pubic shaving has become yet another stick to beat women with. Women are being policed and castigated and criticised, whilst men are quietly doing whatever they like and their choices are respected and indeed, ignored.

(PS When I started shaving all the women in porn had massive bushes!)

"There certainly ARE minge police and they are the radical feminists. During a similar discussion to this one I mentioned that I've been shaving mine off completely for the past 30 years (just my personal choice) and I was accused of "promoting paedophilia" and then ejected and permanently blocked from the forum"
Was this a radical feminist forum?

I do have a huge objection to those that declare that one is better than the other, or you don't sweat more!! or there's no need!! etc etc

You have a huge objection to FACTS? You don't sweat more, thats not an opinion. And there is no need to. You can do whatever you want, but there is no need either way.
Why do people get so cross when other people state rational facts?

I don't know a single RadFem who objects to whatever people do to their pubes.
I know many, many people who don't really know Radical Feminism is - and I am saying that as a very woolly, liberal, wishy-washy, sometimes-shaved, sometimes not feminist-with-a-small-f

I cannot help but think that whoever gets terribly, terribly riled by these kinds of thread or the ones about BF/FF or level of supervision DCs need or similar MN favourites cannot be very secure in their own position.

"Stop trying to control people and let them do what they like"

I'm not trying to control anyone.

But on a thread like this it's interesting to think about why people do things. Why is it that when I was a young woman very few people removed their pubic hair, and now it seems that most do? Things don't happen in a vacuum- there must be a reason. What made the change? Why do so many women now think of their pubic hair as something to be apologized to HCPs for?

"Stop trying to control people and let them do what they like"

How can we control them and stop them doing that they like? Is there some kind of mind control option under "customise mumsnet"?

"Now I have read the entire thread I just want to point out that plenty of men shave completely, too, and are shaved in porn, but nobody "polices" this or tells them not to"

if men were coming on forums worrying about whether they were acceptable with pubic hair, I would be doing my best to reassure them that of course they are. And I would be suggesting that they question where the idea of being completely hairless came from, and whether that was a sensibility they wanted to buy into.

My public area feels less sweaty and more comfortable when I am training.

Notice the use of 'my' and 'I'.

In my opinion, people saying it's impossible are talking rubbish. I trained at lunch time and showed this thread to the women there who all laughed at the women telling other women how they should feel and what they should do with their own bodies

Besides which, all the women with short hair or shaved heads had dry hair at the end of the session. Those with longer (not long, longer) hair were dripping with Sweat.

But apparently, that's impossible according some people.

Seems to me that pubic shaving has become yet another stick to beat women with.

Couldn't agree more. What disappointing is the people who are doing the beating.

In my opinion, people saying it's impossible are talking rubbish

Christ you are obtuse! Nobody said its impossible for you to FEEL less sweaty, ffs. They said that you fundamentally misunderstood how sweating actually works.
Now would you ever stop whining about your sweaty vag? We're all suitably impressed with your hours of kick boxing and shaved head, you're well'ard, we get it.

"my opinion, people saying it's impossible are talking rubbish. I trained at lunch time and showed this thread to the women there who all laughed at the women telling other women how they should feel and what they should do with their own bodies"

Interesting. Which thread was it you showed them? Can't have been this one........

Try actually reading the thread! Every single poster says: do what you like, no-one cares. How the fuck do you get "feminazis are trying to make me be hairy" waahs from that?

We're all suitably impressed with your hours of kick boxing and shaved head, you're well'ard, we get it.

God you really are angry aren't you?

Didn't realise my public region was such a touchy subject.

Did I say I was hard? Or even that I was good at kick boxing? Why would a shaved head contribute to 'well'ard' I am?

Do you really think women who shaved their head do so to appear tougher? What a very odd way of thinking. Does that make women with long hair weaker?

You have tried correcting anyone who wants to shave their own fanjo.
Yes they laughed at this thread.

Apparently most of us defy science. It's very funny.

It's a bit like the 'modesty shorts' issue, which is currently being discussed on another thread. Of course we want everyone to feel comfortable with their bodies/clothes/topiary/piercings, but it's valuable and important for all of us to examine why we feel what we do. As BertrandRussell said, when I was a young woman hardly any women removed their pubic hair - if the topic was ever mentioned, it was as a slightly amusing specialist interest that featured in porn mags. When I was a small girl, no one wore 'modesty shorts' under their school dresses.

Of course if people want to increase their risk of infection, remove their body's natural protection, suffer the discomfort of hair growing back and take the time and money to remove their pubic hair, that's up to them. But so many people just seem to say that they 'like it better' without examining why they would have even thought of doing it in the first place.

Fashions change. I understand that. But some fashions change for reasons that are not necessarily positive. There seems, along with a drive to equality in work and opportunity, to also be a drive towards increased 'female maintenance.' Look at the number of nail bars, blow dry bars, female topiary salons all over the place. I understand that women do these things because they like to 'look good'. But, to use a word I used on the 'modesty shorts' thread, all these things 'hobble' women, in the case of the increasingly high-heeled shoes, literally.

These threads are always hilarious. Only on mumsnet do people get so upset about bald vaginas.

Oh sigh.

I cannot tell you how un-upset I am about hairy or bald nether regions of either sex.

It IS interesting though how het up some people get about it - that is all.
Why is examining the reasons behind changing fashions oh so threatening?? I truly don't get it - I think it's fascinating.

Just for the record, a hairy vagina would indeed by weird it's a vulva but that's a whole other thread

I'd be a bit concerned if I had a hairy vagina

These threads are always hilarious. Only on mumsnet do people get so upset about bald vaginas."
I couldn't be less upset if I tried! But I am interested. I am always interested in why people do things. If you aren't might I respectfully suggest that this is not the thread for you?

I'm reading this sat in a public place. Trying desperately not to think about the pubic area of all around me. Baldy or hairy ...

"I realise that doesn't fit the narrative that there of course must be an oppressive reason behind womens choices but sometimes, there isn't." Well at least you're accepting that sometimes there is- I suppose that's progress!