AIBU to not know much about 'lady garden' maintenance!!

[Joolsy]

OK I'm sorry if I'm putting people off their breakfast. But I have never bothered much with doing anything about my hair 'down there'. I am not a hairy person so it's not like it's hugely overgrown(!). But all I really do is shave my bikini line, like once a year if I'm going on holiday (I don't wear a high-cut swimsuit). Seriously, what else do other people do? I'm worried now that I look like I'm smuggling a ferret down there whenever I go swimming. Should I be trimming it on a regular basis?

Some people don't want to know that shaving body hair was fairly normal for a long time. It doesn't fit their agenda and gives then less sticks to beat other women with.

"Some people don't want to know that shaving body hair was fairly normal for a long time. It doesn't fit their agenda and gives then less sticks to beat other women with."

References, please?

I'll use this thread as reference, and all other pubic hair threads on mn for at least the last 5 years.

MNHQ really should advise people you need evidence worthy of The Hague, before you post.

Your bikini line is the hair some people have extending from the panty line/crease at the top of leg going out to about an inch anything further would be leg hair not bikini hair, this would be the guideline for someone coming for a wax. I wax people who want all sorts but by far the most popular is the good old bikini line everything Inside the pants stay. I had no idea how hairy some people were until I started waxing not being very hairy myself I never understood the need for much maintenance however some people get tangled public hair, sweat rashes from the heat under the hair and hair that gets pulled by panty lines. Other people want a pretty pussy whatever their own idea of that is. Men have exactly the same issues though many want the hair of to make their dick look bigger and this is a quote more suckable.

"MNHQ really should advise people you need evidence worthy of The Hague, before you post."

You said "shaving body hair was fairly normal for a long time"

I assumed you meant historically and I was asking where you learned that from. I don't know anything much about how women dealt with their pubic hair in the past- only in my living memory and that of older women in my family. I thought you had more detailed information.......

not having taken the time to read the bulk of this, is someone claiming that pube shaving has been going on since the dawn of history. So I wonder how women found the time and effort given no electric lighting, a cut throat razor and no NHS as well as working all the daylight hours, child rearing, factory work harvest etc etc.

I'm also surprised that given google and youtube (yep there are how to's on youtube) that there's enough info out there not really to ask any questions anymore.

Interestingly there has been an upsurge in google trends with searches looking for scrotum shaving, you know the Boyzillian. So whats gone around is going around

'Boyzillian'

I had a lovely conversation with the lady waxing my bits about the 'sack, crack and back' service they offered.
There must be easier ways to make a living, surely?

Whether any individual consumes porn or not, I don't see how it can be denied that the general pornification has contributed to this tread of being hairless in certain places?

I assumed you meant historically and I was asking where you learned that from.

I am mid thirties and studied at college before we even had internet. It's called books.

I have read approx 150-200 books on Ancient Egypt, so can not reference which one, said what. Though Joyce Tyldesly is a good starting place.

I studied ancient Egypt at a -level in 1996 and have studied it In my spare time too ever since. I can also read hieroglyphs, but could not tell which books I used when learning. My memory of the last 20 won't allow me to recall page numbers and a paragraphs.

Look for books on the rituals and every happenings. Like the work records from Dayr al Madinah. Those detail who was sick from work and for what reason. Look for stories of normal people. Not just the kings and Kings wives or the high ranking officials. Though some of their possession do detail things like bathing.

Somebody earlier have references from other cultures (Greece I think).

I am really shocked that people don't know that removing body hair goes back so far. Sugaring is thousands of years old.

I go for ages without sorting mine out. I trim with nail scissors and shave round the bikini line when I CBA. My DH is so hairy?", if he complained I'd take him for a back, sack and crack!!

I used to get my back waxed on a semi regular basis - because... "hairy" and the person doing it did once "offer/ask" anout a sack and crack extra because she wanted someone "easy" to practice on. She found me easy to wax as I have a high pain tolerance and didn't scream and cry, but I had to say no. There were a number of factors, I didn't want a young attractive woman near my junk. I was being manscaped for a big date with the woman who became DW (you should have seen her face a couple of months later when she saw the pelt - she still married me). Finaly, I had visions of my scrotum skin acting like a gigantic elastic band and throwing the waxer across the room.

This is not remotely academic, but quite interesting

www.bustle.com/articles/48042-pubic-hair-trends-over-time-from-tweezer-happy-ancient-greece-to-your-last-painful-wax

sigma

'Pelt' is a very underused word.

Thank you, sigma

ItsAllGoingToBeFine I think that article is a bit apocryphal... I thin you'd be hard pressed to find any human being desperate enough to use tweezers for full dilapidation. I know a freshly knapped flint is sharp as a razor blade but still... I seriously doubt it there is a hyrogliph of a woman on her back with her feet in the air being shaved with a broken bit of stone... If there was then the British Museum would be running an exhibition of it every six months. I sau that because they love displaying the roman cock and balls with wings

I always think it is really interesting when there are heated arguments that boil down to this position:

Person A: I think maybe x
Person B: it's not x! It definitely isn't X, X IS NOT THE CASE, is NOT NOT NOT and you are a BITCH for suggesting it
Person A: oh ok, you think not x, why? what do you think?
Person B: stop trying to make me do things I don't want to do, stop trying to control me
Person A: I don't want to make you do anything, I am just thinking about things
Person B: well DON'T think about them DON'T DON'T DON'T
person a: why?
Person B: because - because - because - IT DOESN'T MATTER!!! LEAVE IT ALONE!

Person A basically has no choice at this point but to wander off scratching her head, at the overheated and absurd situation of being ordered not to think about something by someone who is very very upset because - it apparently "doesn't matter"?

What it really is, of course, is that person B has chosen not to perform certain acts of analysis for certain very good reasons that matter to their personal modus operandi. they need certain things to be unexamined for a certain level of comfort. having someone analyse these things in their presence drags them into an uncomfortable space that they didn't want to go into and their emotional objections to this make sense, when you understand them not as defending their personal choice to, e.g., shave or not (which no one was attacking); but to analyse or not (which is now under threat.

In other words, (as with the three year old who says "nothing!" in reply to the question "What are you doing with that pen?") it's a classic case of speaking opposites as misdirection (oh yes, you are definitely doing something with that pen) - when they insist IT DOESN'T MATTER. It means: it matters very, very much to me, that you leave this alone. It isn't: leave it, because it doesn't matter. It is: you MUST leave it and THAT matters very much to me.

Of course, if you have chosen not to analyse, not only is it very uncomfortable to find someone analysing in your field of vision and dragging you into it ("don't think of an elephant!") - but worse, you become an object of analysis. You feel observed and snooped at, as if anthropologists were circling you with notebooks. So there's that too.

"The point of a debate is to put forward various opinions. If we all said 'oh yes you're quite right' aibu would be a very quiet place."

As, indeed, it would be if we all said "You're wrong. No, I' not going to say why I think you're wrong- you just are. And you're also [overthinking/wasting time/being aggressive/a hairy feminist/hilarious/horrible/ganging up/shouting down/ridiculous/insert own choice of epithet] if you dare to suggest further discussion might be interesting"

Ah, very pertinent over thinking though.
I love a bit of over thinking and analysis - there's not enough of it IMO

I do wonder why underthinking is considered preferable to overththinking. I know which I like best.........

Oh I shave the majority off, especially in summer a sweaty flange is not the way to go.

I was of the impression that sweat glands are in the skin, not the hair.

And you're also [overthinking/wasting time/being aggressive/a hairy feminist/hilarious/horrible/ganging up/shouting down/ridiculous/insert own choice of epithet] if you dare to suggest further discussion might be interesting"

That quite strange. I haven't seen anyone on here throwing shitty feminist stereotypes around.

I have been subjected to them by Hodoooor, though.