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To wonder who this men are then?

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LovelyLilacWisteria · 22/05/2016 17:33

I am a long term MNetter, around four years at least. I have name changed because I don't want this to follow me around the boards and I know some MNetters in RL Smile

I am have fairly recently split from a H, have children. I can be attractive-ish, scrub up well, dog rough on the school run and most days in fact, so I am not blowing my own trumpet here.

Since the news got out that I am single, I have received regularly - at least fortnightly - messages from various men I have known over my life time, through work, school, in my social circle etc all of them checking up on me and wanting to find out how I am and how they thought they would just drop me a line to see where life has taken me. Nice enough. Without fail though within a matter of a few weeks/messages these men have tried to push the messages/contact to become inappropriate. This almost always begins in the form of offering me a massage whenever I express that I have been busy or am tired. It is literally like ticking a bingo card, so much so that I have purposely said it and sure enough within a few messages the massage offer comes - it is seemingly the approach of choice for middle aged married men, one that they can push on with if I show interest or stop in its tracks if I tell them its inappropriate i.e. I am being touchy and reading too much into their kind offer or they are joking Hmm. More often than not once challenged, they become huffy and borderline aggressive, with one even insulting me and telling me to fuck off. This was a man who had repeatedly offered to call in while going to meetings in my area despite zero interest or acknowledgement from me. If I don't challenge them the messages tend to become more and more suggestive in tone with some actually really shocking ones sometimes - usually late at night.

So what I am wondering is, who are these men? Here on MN there seem to be a lot of women claiming to be happily married or with lovely men and that the majority of men are decent sorts. On FB the same men that are messaging me are splashed all over it with posting about holidays they are on, meals they are going out for, how happy they are etc, photos of them smiling and hugging their wives etc. In RL my married friends also claim the same, when some of THEIR husbands have been the ones who are messaging me! One is even married to a relative.....

So if most men are decent and almost ALL of you and my friends in RL are married to decent, faithful ones, who are these men messaging me in this way?

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BillSykesDog · 22/05/2016 20:54

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LovelyLilacWisteria · 22/05/2016 20:57

But I never said anything remotely like that. You've just made that up.

And here I am being sucked into defending myself. I don't need to. Sorry if this makes you uncomfortable. You've clearly never experienced it yourself so would rather disbelieve and try to embarrass me as a liar.

I won't respond to you again but by all means keep on posting. The stuff you're saying says and awful lot about you and the kind of person you are.

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pocketsaviour · 22/05/2016 21:00

You expected us to read your thread complete with wild speculations, but don't want to provide hard numbers? Hmm

Come on, cough up. I want figures. Your assertions are meaningless without statistics.

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AnyFucker · 22/05/2016 21:02

do you know what ?

Women have very little idea of how much men hate them Germaine Greer

and then some women join in and make it easier for them "AnyFucker^

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LovelyLilacWisteria · 22/05/2016 21:03

Don't hold your breath pocket Smile

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StrangeLookingParasite · 22/05/2016 21:04

Oh horseshit, the pair of you, BillSykes and pocketsaviour. Did you even read the many other posts from people reporting the same behaviour? Do you not think that perhaps Wisteria has just had a wave of it, so there's a little bit of understandable hyperbole happening? Jeez, are you this fucking literal in your interactions with the real world?
And the bitchery inherent in trying to paint the OP as vain and self congratulating... it's not even there.

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hookiewookie29 · 22/05/2016 21:08

OnE OF MY BEST FRIENDS LOST HER HUBBY SUDDENLY IN NOVEMBER LAST YEAR. THEY WERE TOGETHER OVER 34 YEARS.
She has received many friend requests from men she doesn't know, or those who are mutual friends with someone she knows. She even received one last friday from her dentists widowed brother claiming he 'liked women' and liked the look of her!
I told her to tell her dentist, just to embarrass the brother....but how did he find out her details?? Bizarre.

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TheFuckersBitingMe · 22/05/2016 21:08

What the fuck is going on when the OP and several other women on here all make the same assertions that once out of a relationship they're seen as easy meat by 'some' men, and suddenly it must be bullshit and she's got her head firmly up her sphincter cooing "look at me, sexiest Wisteria ever seen" whilst lunging about in front of the mirror? It couldn't possibly be true?

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LovelyLilacWisteria · 22/05/2016 21:10

Thank you so much strange and af, everyone that's posted decently in fact.

You know what I find interesting about this thread, the general MN party line is that women dealing with unwanted sexual attention/aggression of all kinds should be believed.......only not when it might be your husbands and relatives dishing it out though, right?

Bowing out now. I don't need that kind of viciousness, had enough from the disappointing men in RL.

Anyone who thinks I am trolling with DM intent Grin please do contact MNHQ. They'll let you know that I am long standing, generally non troublemaking poster.

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blackbirdmilkshake · 22/05/2016 21:12

Do you live in Hull? Is one of your admirers called Brian?

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MangoMoon · 22/05/2016 21:12

I would say that rather than making you feel sexy & desirable, it has the opposite effect.

It makes you feel grubby, pathetic, easy meat and you wonder if people are thinking you are in some way desperate for any attention.

It is also fucking upsetting to realise that people you thought of genuinely as friends are actually just dirty bastards that are trying to take advantage of your being a single mum.

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AnyFucker · 22/05/2016 21:12

I am a little bit surprised at some of you, tbh.

There are some opinions expressed on this thread that are not the usual MO

puzzling and unsettling

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WhatALoadOfOldBollocks · 22/05/2016 21:12

I've had men pretending to be my friend but really just trying to get in my pants. Funny how they weren't nearly as "helpful" when I turned down the offer of a date or sex, so there were clearly alterior motives to their friendship.

My divorced friend has had her male friends and husbands of her friends send suggestive texts. They've made it obvious she only has to say yes and the'd cheat.

I have a friend who's an escort. Pretty much all her clients are married yet say they love their wives. They are also very "nice" respectable men who you'd never expect to cheat, especially with sex workers!

Needless to say I would never 100% trust a man to stay faithful unfortunately, and am always suspicious of the motives of new male friends.

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LastGirlOnTheLeft · 22/05/2016 21:15

I'm with you OP. I have a lovely, sweet natured friend who went on her works Christmas do shortly after splitting from her fiancé. She said the next day that out of the nine men there, SEVEN tried it on. All bar one were married. She was shocked as she would never have believed it of them prior to this.

I really do think most men are actually not nice people.

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Psycobabble · 22/05/2016 21:16

I have been cheated on by two men I was in serious relationships with ( one the father of dc )

But still I honestly do not think all men are the same and would do so .

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Sallystyle · 22/05/2016 21:17

I had two men message me on FB after they split up with their wives asking if I was still happily married, making it clear they were up for it.

I was quite offended. Was I the first person they thought of who might be desperate enough to shag a newly single man? Or were they working through a list?

Both were old school friends who I hadn't seen for years and years.

I believe you OP and it doesn't shock me at all.

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BillSykesDog · 22/05/2016 21:18

I really do think most men are actually not nice people.

Oh really? Which other groups would you like to apply these sweeping statements to? Black people maybe? People with green eyes? Blondes?

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Sallystyle · 22/05/2016 21:19

Spot on AF.

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AnyFucker · 22/05/2016 21:22

Give it up, Bill

You are out of order to dismiss the op's experience.

This is a support site

What the fuck is wrong with you...no one has accused your Nigel of sniffing around a vulnerable woman.

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LastGirlOnTheLeft · 22/05/2016 21:22

No, just men. Why are you getting so annoyed? If this thread affects you so much don't read it. You are coming across so aggressively.

Sure some men are decent but I do believe they are in the minority.

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NeverbuytheDailyMail · 22/05/2016 21:25

I don't think Bill is talking bullshit actually OP. I can't bear the stereotyping of men as sexual predators any more than I can bear the stereotyping of women as chaste virgins and mothers, and a lot of people on this thread do seem to want to perpetuate this.

It takes both men and women for cheating to happen. I have had unwanted advances from men but I've also had unwanted advances from women.

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HooplaLoopla1 · 22/05/2016 21:26

Shit, this thread is depressing isn't it?

Honestly though, really? All men are lying, cheating scumbags? That's all men have been, are and will ever be? Surely that's the same kind of BS as all women are gold diggers. All blondes are dumb. All women are bitches.

SOME men are like this and personally (having been on the receiving end of some of this kind of bollocks) it didn't make me think every man is like this, or that there are no men out there who can be faithful or are honest and true. Misplaced trust can happen to either sex by either sex. As a mother of boys I don't and won't believe that's all they're capable of and a mother of girls I still won't and don't believe it's all men are capable of. That's doing a disservice to men AND women IMO.

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crappymummy · 22/05/2016 21:28

This does not surprise me one iota

as for men not being 'nice', well, they mostly don't need to be

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AnyFucker · 22/05/2016 21:28

It's fine to believe the best of people.

But why do people have to dismiss the experiences of op (and all those who have had the same ones) in order to do so ?

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Helmetbymidnight · 22/05/2016 21:28

Op has related her disheartening experience and has been told she is up her arse, she loves the attention, she must cough up numbers or it's not true and it takes two to cheat.

Wow. Sorry op, mumsnet apparently isn't a place where you can discuss guys hitting on you.

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