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Why are police so useless and dont try prevent things

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Kitty3E · 15/05/2016 03:55

I'm having an issue with upstairs, im on my phone typing this so excuse mistakes.
Phoned police after last straw of upstairs who kicked my door three times as he left to go out.
He purposely stamps on the floor, walks arlund in boots 24/7 on laminate and makes noise whilst he knows im in a particular room. I understand perfectly these things arent a police matter

I called police for him kicking my door three times earlier and just as he came in at 2am

I called police at around 7pm, they just turned up at 3.40am woke me up to say they dont think its harassment
I said my partner who doesnt live with me is loosing his cool and they said to ask my partner to have a word with him Hmm
I said my partner will prob beat him up due to it beig clear he is a coward who is only picking on me cause im a young lone female with a baby.
They said its the cluncil duty of care but said they will notify intelligence due to him smoking weed n dealing

I honestly feel like its going to kick off very soon
Im trying to prevent this but it is very hard this man is trying to upset me and nobody will help me

What should i do

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Kitty3E · 15/05/2016 10:54

I have not posted about this before, there is nobody below me it is just me and the guy above.
It is just strange that kicking my door does not come as harrassment

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Kitty3E · 15/05/2016 11:02

I did only phone 101 and the lady on the phone said to call 999 if he does it again. I do feel threatened by him because he will not leave me alone and the council do nothing about it. I know noise is not an issue for police, i explained this. I understand that perfectly my issue is i do not understand how someone can purposely kick my door several times and run off, this is a god dam 50yr old man doing this shit!!!!
I did also mention to them about him dealing and smoking weed and they said they will put a note to the local force.
I know there are bigger things to deal with besides this but little things like this is what turn into bigger things, which is why i do not understand why they wont prevent it! All i wanted them to do was talk to him (of course not at 4am another time)

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Kitty3E · 15/05/2016 11:04

I phoned the police at 7 pm
THEY turned up at 4 am

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NaughtToThreeSadOnions · 15/05/2016 11:14

This does sound like harrasment but I still don't think it's a police matter.

Do you rent? Does he? Is it housing association (social housing) or private rent?
You need to talk to the council or housing association or the managing agent if you rent privately

DizzyNorthernBird · 15/05/2016 11:20

This is antisocial behaviour. The police DO take it seriously these days, as long term it can cause physcological harm.

The police are correct in submitting intelligence in relation to the cannabis use and possible dealing. They will not and do not have the time to enter someone's house these days on the back of a one off report. What you need to do is keep reporting it so they can build an intelligence profile to justify getting a search warrant. They will only do this is he is dealing though, so you will need to demonstrate him supplying (i,e frequent visitors only stating for a couple of minutes etc etc).

Someone kicking at your as a lone incident does not amount to harassment- but it could be if it is part of a wider pattern of behaviour which is causing you harassment alarm or distress......what else has he done to make you feel this way?

Making noises in his flat is a difficult one, you would need to be able to show that he is doing it deliberately to cause you distress.

Keep ringing the police, log all of your calls, then when you've built up a strong case you can present a case to your council to have him removed.

limitedperiodonly · 15/05/2016 11:22

Kicking the door deliberately is threatening behaviour which is a criminal offence. The other behaviour could well be a police matter if they deem it intentional intimidation rather than normal noise.

To all those people who say it's not harassment and intimidation to kick the door, why do you think he's doing it?

It is the police's job to stop behaviour that could lead to more serious crimes - that would be someone's boyfriend getting so angry that he assaults the perpetrator. That's why forces have Safer Neighbourhood Teams - they prefer to deal with things with warnings before they get bad.

OP I think the police who came round were being lazy. Contact the Safer Neighbourhood Team or whatever your force calls it tomorrow for a chat. I did. In a few days they sent two officers to ask me what was happening. They were very sympathetic and of practical help. They told the person to stop being such an arse or they would be in trouble. That solved it after a few hiccups. I hope you get the same outcome.

PaulAnkaTheDog · 15/05/2016 11:25

This sounds so familiar, right down to the wording of 'lone female with baby', 'laminate flooring', 'My partner who doesn't love with me' and the description of the neighbour.

EddieStobbart · 15/05/2016 11:26

Does it matter?

PlasticRoses · 15/05/2016 11:26

I was thinking the other day that we were due one of these

NeedsAsockamnesty · 15/05/2016 11:28

Why don't you keep a diary and try to deal with it during office hours with the officers responsible for antisocial behaviour.

PaulAnkaTheDog · 15/05/2016 11:28

Well yes Eddie because of it's the same poster, she's a serial namechanger who posts roughly the same story. Usually it goes the wrong way for her, a bit of flouncing/deletion, then the same thread again a few weeks later.

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Kitty3E · 15/05/2016 11:28

He did try kick my door in before when i complained about the noise upstairs, i just ignored the door but i was scared. I did not report this though but i did to the council who said "he wanted to see what your problem was" Confused

I just feel like things are getting worse and nobody is doing anything to help me.

I have also had noise recorders in my flat and several times at around 11-2am and between the day there is a report of "loud footsteps" which is actually him stamping on the floor at me.

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Kitty3E · 15/05/2016 11:30

My partner doesnt love me? Paul what is your problem?

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PlasticRoses · 15/05/2016 11:31

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PaulAnkaTheDog · 15/05/2016 11:31

That was a typo, it was Live.

limitedperiodonly · 15/05/2016 11:32

Are you saying it's made up Paul? If you think so, then report it. Whether true or not, I still think the thread is valuable because so many people seem to be under the impression that causing someone fear by deliberately kicking their door is not a matter for the police and that frustration, anger and a desire for revenge is unreasonable.

They are wrong.

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Kitty3E · 15/05/2016 11:33

I don't know were the dealer lives and i have taken my doors off? Why?

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PaulAnkaTheDog · 15/05/2016 11:34

Where did I say it was made up? I didn't. I did say I think it's the same poster who keeps constantly posting about it.

Myinlawsdidthisthebastards · 15/05/2016 11:34

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Gide · 15/05/2016 11:35

She meant live with you, my iPad persistently defaults to love when I mean live.

This is a police matter, non emergency number. Brutally, having had similar for a year with neighbours, I move. It ruined any home life, the neighbour was a drug dealing unreasonable twat who didn't like us because we were keen to have a quiet life in our own home.

If you aren't prepared to move, get onto the landlord/council and Environmental people who may be more helpful. Keep a detailed log of noise.

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Kitty3E · 15/05/2016 11:36

Paul you are wrong. However I am not letting you try to derail my thread. I'm here for help not for arguments.

Myinlaws it was 4am they woke me up, prob should not of said it was pissed off

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EddieStobbart · 15/05/2016 11:37

She said she has reported the weed.It must be really frustrating to come on here, genuinely not having posted a problem before and be accused of name changing etc. I'd rather give someone the benefit of the doubt, I choose to come on MN so it's not like they are wasting my time.

Myinlawsdidthisthebastards · 15/05/2016 11:38

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limitedperiodonly · 15/05/2016 11:42

Perhaps she keeps posting about it because nothing ever gets done paul.

myinlaws The police will understand. They hear it all the time. I told the police I was going to punch my neighbour if I saw them poking around my garden and causing damage to annoy me again. They said they understood my anger but that punching her would get me into trouble which they didn't want. They told me not to open the door but to call 999 if I saw her in the middle of a criminal act - deliberate damage or theft. If I discovered her unlovely presence after the act I should call their non-emergency number to report it.

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Kitty3E · 15/05/2016 11:48

I phoned at 7 and they hadnt come in the 60mins promised due to being busy with more urgent things which i understand. I phoned again at 2am which is when the woman on the phone told me they had two before me then will come see me as he had come in and kick my door again then they turned up at 3.40. So really it was my call at 7 they were turning up for which i understand its saturday its busy but i just think they should of come in the morning.

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