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Desperate for some advice... It's regarding my son (who is 12)... Anyone?

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somewhereoverthere · 06/05/2016 21:40

Hi,

I literally have no one to talk about this to... I'm just desperate for advice. I can't find much info online, but came across here.

My son has a laptop, his dad brought it for him (we are recently divorced) and I was never keen on the idea. However, it has a been a big help for homework and my son uses it a lot to Skype with his dad, who he only sees once a month - that's a whole other issue.

We have some controls on there - as much as I could possibly find, I spent a lot of time Googling, etc. and things have been going okay.

However, he does use Skype to talk to his new friends, from high school. They all have it, apparently, and it's good if you don't have FaceTime, which he doesn't. He has been taking his laptop to his room a lot, which I have tried my best to discourage. However, he complains that it gets to loud downstairs when he is trying to work (I have 3 other children) - 8, 6 and 4. Also, the younger one does constantly press the keys, which I then get a bad attitude from my older son (the one I have talking about). So I have just let him take it up, he gets his homework done.

Everything has been working out okay, I haven't really thought much of it.

However, he was crying in the bathroom for about 35 minutes, something which was very odd, so I ended up getting him out of there, for him to just break down in my arms. I gave him a cuddle and asked what the problem was, he got angry, stormed away and said he just couldn't tell me.

I later get a knock on the door from 2 of my son's best friends, who live in our village (they don't go to his school) and asked if they could speak to him and I tried to explain that he was a bit upset and asked if they might know if anything has happened recently. They looked at each other in a really weird way, I was then panicking and admit I raised my voice a bit at them, they said I should ask him and left with a bad attitude, because I shouted at them (not really a shout, but a raised voice). I now feel really bad about this, but cannot sit and worry.

I went up and told my son who I had just saw and for him to tell me. He starts shouting about how this man is unfair and how he is going to be in so much trouble and how sorry he is and how he is packing all his bags. I tried to get him to calm down; he then grabs some pain relief and says he might as well just take them all. I snatched them and just told him to tell me and tried to explain that I would sort it.

He then was explaining how he did something really stupid online. That this person said that he was a 13 year old girl and said that he knew (a friend of my son's name) and he had told her to add him. However, he wasn't actually that person, etc. etc.

My son then explains how he showed on his webcam and it was a big mistake and was literally sobbing with tears - I tried to calm him down and was trying to say that I'm not mad at him and we can sort it and we will report it and all that.

He then goes on to say how it isn't possible and all his friends have seen an image of him naked and they all laughed at school today and everyone knows and have been sending it all around to everyone. He says that everyone has been nasty and printed posters out of this picture, but he was saying that it was at his after school club so no teachers or other years know yet, but how they will on Monday and how they will post it all over Facebook (my son is not on Facebook) etc. etc.

My son is literally in hysterics. I have no idea how to help, I am trying to say that it will be okay, but really, I don't know if it will? It sounds awful, I just don't know what to do or say, or whatever. I'm just lost and need some advice. He is cooped away in his room, crying and screaming. He has lost the plot.

Please can someone here just give me a little advice? Please, I'm absolutely desperate.

OP posts:
MangoMoon · 07/05/2016 13:17

Mango do you really think it will help her son's state of mind to think he's in trouble with the police right now?

He won't be 'in trouble with the police right now', and quite frankly it would take one hell of a shitty parent to even suggest that to their child.

He is the victim.

Regardless of how it came about, right now the distribution of his image is the issue in hand.

I'm not even going to get into what is so monumentally fucking ridiculous the rest of your advice is.

TrappedByTiredness · 07/05/2016 13:53

OP, you've had a lot of opinions and advice, some good and some not so good. It's hard to filter when there are opposing views (they can't both be right!) and so I though this may help.

https://www.nspcc.org.uk/preventing-abuse/keeping-children-safe/sexting/

Desperate for some advice... It's regarding my son (who is 12)... Anyone?
Desperate for some advice... It's regarding my son (who is 12)... Anyone?
Desperate for some advice... It's regarding my son (who is 12)... Anyone?
TrappedByTiredness · 07/05/2016 13:54

When you click on the NSPCC suture is brings this up.

Bear in mind if reporting to the police would be detrimental to your child, a society that protects children would not suggest it!

Desperate for some advice... It's regarding my son (who is 12)... Anyone?
Ditsy4 · 07/05/2016 14:33

That is very helpful TbyT love your name.

To those people who keep saying ring the school. It is the weekend NOBODY will be there.
I have explained to OP what to do about that and she responded.
I think due to no other posts that she is dealing with it and dealing with the police. I just hope her little lad can recover from this. It is awfully sad when these things happen now.

somewhereoverthere · 07/05/2016 14:40

I phoned 101 last night, very busy atm but just wanted to update

OP posts:
wonkylampshade · 07/05/2016 14:44

Poor kid. I hope you got somewhere with the police op.

ChocolateMama · 07/05/2016 14:46

Glad to hear back from you OP. Been checking on here all morning for an update as cannot get your poor son out of my mind. Take care. Lots of love to your son.

CarolH78 · 07/05/2016 15:05

Mango either I'm doing a terrible job of explaining myself or you're just not reading what I've said. I never said OP should suggest to her son that he's in trouble with the police. What I said is that, depending on the circumstances of what happened, the police may tell him that he's committed a crime. As you correctly point out, this will be pretty shitty for him on top of an already shitty situation.

On top of that, IF he shared the image willingly and IF it was another child and not an adult on the receiving end, he could end up with this incident on his file and it could show up if he ever applies for a job that requires a DBS check, meaning he could end up having to explain all of this years from now when he'll really just want to forget it ever happened. You don't think that would be detrimental to him? Or maybe you just don't believe that's how the system works? In which case I don't blame you (I didn't believe it either until experiencing it first hand) but if you don't believe me, go and read the police's own statement in the Guardian article I linked. Or just Google it, there are plenty of young people this has happened to. Here's just one from the first page of Google results: www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34136388

The NSPCC advice is spot on. It does NOT say "go straight to the police without even knowing what happened". It specifically gives different advice depending on the circumstances. Naturally if there is an adult (i.e. paedophile) involved, they say go to the police. If the child has been forced into sending the image by another child, they say go to the police. But if the child has shared an image willingly with another child, the NSPCC does NOT say go to the police. It says inform the child's school, which is exactly the right approach. If the image is being shared online, they say contact ChildLine and Internet Watch Foundation to get it removed.

CarolH78 · 07/05/2016 15:07

Sorry posted before seeing OP's update. Hope things go ok.

OTheHugeManatee · 07/05/2016 15:17

Hope everything is ok OP and the police have been helpful.

EmNetta · 07/05/2016 16:29

Been lurking and hoping to hear your DS is now feeling a bit better.
I really think that moving him to a different school (and the other three children) could solve a few problems, particularly in the future, when they are likely to need a full-time driver between them for any social life.
It's just possible your DS might be happier elsewhere too.

summerdreams · 07/05/2016 16:34

Hope everything is ok op, been lurking waiting for an update. Flowers

I hope you've spoken to the police and ds realises that this is illegal and will be dealt with.

PattiLevin · 07/05/2016 16:45

Yep, still thinking of you OP. Flowers
Hope DC is getting a bit of a handle on things x

mix56 · 07/05/2016 16:55

This was on the news where I live last week, the police were involved. it was the lad's own basket ball trainer, (who was married with several young children of his own.) & had been sexting & getting images from several boys.
Now in prison for 10 years

TrappedByTiredness · 07/05/2016 22:45

How has today been op, and what did the police say?

BeYourselfUnlessUCanBeAUnicorn · 07/05/2016 23:51

Your poor DS. I hope he has been able to calm down a bit now. Sad

littledrummergirl · 08/05/2016 00:33

Thinking of you. Flowers

MeMySonAndl · 08/05/2016 12:49

I hope you and DS are feeling slightly better today, and in receipt of support. Flowers

Favouritethings · 08/05/2016 12:59

Hope you and ds are ok xx

Lunar1 · 08/05/2016 14:57

Really glad you managed to ring them, I hope things are getting sorted out.

MatthewWrightIsThick · 08/05/2016 15:11

i hope 101 have treated this seriously.

Keely93 · 08/05/2016 23:59

Hope it's taken serious, can't imagine the stress you and your son feel, hope you're both doing as well as can be expected x

Italiangreyhound · 09/05/2016 00:42

I cannot read all the comments as my internet keeps stopping and is throwing me out so I've only got as far as page 2 of 9, so things may have moved on...

but here goes....

My friend's son, who is a very sensible lad, sent a picture of his penis to a 'girl' who friended him. This 'girl' then passed the picture to someone who began to black mail him for more photos. His life was a misery for months as he was worried the picture would be revealed.

THANKFULLY a kind friend told my friend's son he MUST tell his parents and he did. They informed the police and even though there is little likelihood this evil MAN will be caught the terrible 'spell' of shame and fear is broken.

You must inform the police and also the school. You must explain to your son this is absolutely NOT the worst thing that can happen and at least now that it is out in the open there is no more to worry about this being revealed. Even if there are any other photos etc so what, he was naked, is it possible to see his face or who he is, even so, yes, it is immensely embarrassing but it will pass. people will get interested into something else soon. His true friends will understand and MAYBE many other kids have done similar things.

My friend's son is fine now, he has moved on with his life and is fine. Within weeks he had moved on. Please, please tell your son it will be OK.

Please make sure anything that could be used to attempt to take his life is out of the way - just as a precaution.

Please talk to this charity if you feel they can help you. Papyrus, prevention of young suicide ...

www.papyrus-uk.org/

I'm sorry I have not read all the posts....

Please, when you can, speak to your son's friends, if you son is OK with this, say sorry for shouting and encourage them to be supportive of him. They were probably embarrassed about it.

Re "My son is still in such a state, telling me to go away, which is making me a bit cross because I'm only trying to help. He has packed a bag and keeps trying to leave the front door, my other children have now woken up, which is a disaster, they're running around upstairs."

Please do not get cross with him, this is massive for him and although you are upset you don't know exactly how mortified he feels. Please get your other kids to go to bed if they are still up (I hope not of course), the last thing he needs (IMHO) is for them to be involved.

Please just get him to calm down, a hot chocolate and a sit down together, would it be easier for him to watch a DVD of something until he falls asleep?

Re "He is telling me that no one will fix this and that he doesn't want the teachers to know and he doesn't want to talk to the police. He has told me he has deleted his Skype account. He has picked up knives, those candle lighters, etc. but I don't think he will do anything silly as just keeps putting them down, he is just literately still in absolute tears."

This is so sad. I agree with BiftasWifta the Police need to help you.

and agree with MammaTJ Re "Tell him he can move schools, tell him you will move and keep him off school until it is sorted. Anything to keep him calm and safe for now, while you sort it, with the excellent advice above!"

Please do not leave this at all, phone the police. Ask advise, explain he is threatening suicide. You need help to deal. I am so sorry not to get to the end of the thread and will try to now, and I know things may well have moved on but I did not want to read and run, especially as I know of someone who came through something similar.

Italiangreyhound · 09/05/2016 00:48

Oh OP I realise this happened a few days ago now, sorry i thought it was happening in real time, sort of 10 pm tonight not Friday, and when you said your kids were up I thought you meant now! Sorry. Trying to catch up.

PS in my friend's son's case there was another boy, who was also involved and the Police were very understanding and understood both boys were victims of pedophile grooming on the internet and that neither boy had intended to do anything illegal. Sadly, after sending the first photo they were blackmailed and told to send more but fortunately did not, but that did not mean there was not pressure to do so.

So awful. I am so sorry.

gingergenie · 09/05/2016 08:00

Op - appreciate MN is fairly low on your priority list, but when you can please let us know how things are. We've all been very worried. I can't stop thinking about how your poor son is? I do hope things are calmer and the police/school are helping x