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Stag doo in Amsterdam

325 replies

Pixienott0005 · 18/04/2016 11:41

Is it me or would most other women feel unsettled about a shed loads of blokes getting rat arsed near the red light district?

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SquirrelStandoff · 18/04/2016 15:07

I would have no problem with OH going to lap dancing bar
Having a napkin put on his lap in case of a happy accident while a naked woman grinds on him and he may lick her breasts or put a 'cheeky' finger or two in her... is it so distinct from getting a handjob in a brothel...
Are you sure? Hmm

Sparklycat · 18/04/2016 15:11

Mozzchops that's really contradictory the fact you just said that they enjoy the odd lap dance means that when they are together they obviously can't keep it in their pants...

VestalVirgin · 18/04/2016 15:13

I managed to have a hen with no naked men involved - aren't I amazing?

No, you are pretty normal. A friend of mine also managed that, which I knew in advance, because otherwise I would not have participated. (However, someone did suggest that we go look at male strippers. Which says a lot about how normalized this has become.)

lubeybooby · 18/04/2016 15:15

It doesn't matter where they go. You either trust your partner or not.

My exdh and friends went to Bournemouth for his stag do. One of his (married) mates shagged a street prostitute in a children's play park at 3am.

magichoops · 18/04/2016 15:16

Nope, wouldn't bother me at all. In fact, DH is going over there soon. We used to go a lot together before DC.

I trust him, and it wouldn't take a particular city to test that trust either. If they're going to cheat, they'll do it, regardless of where they are geographically.

My only issue now is that I'm in insanely jealous that DH is going and I'm not Grin

UptownFunk00 · 18/04/2016 15:19

Sorry Vesta I was being sarcastic - I meant most women have hens without strippers, why not expect the same from men.

MrNoseybonk · 18/04/2016 15:19

There's lots of seedy and likely degrading stuff that can be done that isn't shagging a prostitute though.
Also think a lot of people - men and women - will do seedy and sleazy stuff on a hen/stag night that they wouldn't otherwise do, because although you can trust them, it seems like stag/hen doesn't count for a lot of people.

MozzchopsThirty · 18/04/2016 15:20

Not sure what kind of lap dancing clubs you're on about
You probably read that in the daily mail
Having been to numerous lap dancing clubs I have never seen anything like that

Alasalas2 · 18/04/2016 15:20

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BitOutOfPractice · 18/04/2016 15:23

There are prostitutes and strip Clive in every city in Europe you know OP?

YellowTulips · 18/04/2016 15:24

DH has been a few times. Didn't bother me at all - if it did he wouldn't be my DH.

A city doesn't make someone unfaithful or use sex workers.

BitOutOfPractice · 18/04/2016 15:24

Strip Clive? Wtaf! Clubs! CLUBS!

Poor Clive. He must be exhausted Grin

SquirrelStandoff · 18/04/2016 15:25

MozzchopsThirty

Having been to numerous lap dancing clubs I have never seen anything like that

  1. Why have you been to numerous lapdancing clubs?
  2. Do you watch what happens in the private booths?
SquirrelStandoff · 18/04/2016 15:26

BitOutOfPractice
Grin

MrBensMrs · 18/04/2016 15:26

Not sure what kind of lap dancing clubs you're on about
You probably read that in the daily mail
Having been to numerous lap dancing clubs I have never seen anything like that

In Amsterdam? I have to beg to differ - I was told by a male friend who went into one with a naked lady on a swing smashing her vaj into blokes who got close/interested enough - and that was the tip of the ice berg in there.

I wouldn't be happy with OH visiting a strip club, let alone ones in Amsterdam.

LisaD1 · 18/04/2016 15:30

If a man wants to visit a prostitute he could easily cut out the need to visit Amsterdam, or even be out of his usual routine for very long. As I discovered when I find out about EX H's love of them, he racked up 1000's in debt on these visits (and slot machines) and his regular "treat" lived down the same road as my parents, which is how I found out.

Quiero · 18/04/2016 15:32

DH had his stag do in Amsterdam. We live about a mile from a ferry terminal and back then you could get a return ticket for about £35. It was cheaper than getting to London. I've been loads of times, in mixed groups and only one bloke went with a prostitute. He's a pig who sleeps with prostitutes here so there was no surprise there.

My male BF said Prague and some parts of Germany are worse than Amsterdam for the sex industry.

MozzchopsThirty · 18/04/2016 15:35
  1. none of your business
  2. I've been in private booths alone and with men

Still no issues
But no I haven't been to Amsterdam but I imagine they're all much the same give or take a few fanjos in the face

VestalVirgin · 18/04/2016 15:39

Sorry Vesta I was being sarcastic - I meant most women have hens without strippers, why not expect the same from men.

That's clear; I just wanted to agree with you. Wink

@Alasalas: One can also drink alcohol at home. That doesn't mean that someone who goes to a pub is not likely to drink alcohol there.
It is, however, likely that this person drinks alcohol at home, too.

There are many reasons to go to Amsterdam, but a woman engaged to marry the man who wants to go to Amsterdam would know of any innocent reasons he has to go there.

chillthefXXkout · 18/04/2016 15:40

My DH had a lap dance on a stag do in the UK (before we met) - if they are going to cheat/buy sex then they are going to cheat/buy sex wherever they are and not just on stag do's.

Amsterdam is a lovely city, with plenty to do besides get high and sleep with a prostitute. I guess it depends what your DP wants to get up to, he might have zero interest in anything but boozing and having fun with his mates despite being near (pricey) strip clubs/brothels.

ApplePaltrow · 18/04/2016 15:43

No wonder Britain's about to leave the EU. According to this thread, a significant part of the nation are small minded, slightly stupid xenophobes.

Amsterdam is a beautiful city. It's genuinely stunning. It has architecture, history, culture, amazing food and great nightlife. It has great infrastructure, tons of international visitors and nice weather. It's a startup and innovation hub ffs. Of course it has more than prostitutes. People visit for the same reasons they visit Barcelona or Paris. It's also under an hour by train to The Hague or other amazing cities in the Netherlands. It's well connected to other parts of W Europe. Also, everyone speaks English!

In 2012, Amsterdam was ranked the second best city in which to live by the Economist Intelligence Unit (EIU)
pages.eiu.com/rs/eiu2/images/EIU_BestCities.pdf

If your DH is a dickhead, then he'll be a dickhead wherever he goes. And frankly, he won't be missed. I think a lot of European countries are sick of British tourists going to other places and assuming that other countries are some sort of sex and drinking playground for them to be twats in. They aren't. People who live and work in Amsterdam are (on average) better educated, wealthier and healthier than people in the UK.

People in Amsterdam should be avoiding us, not the other way round

SquirrelStandoff · 18/04/2016 15:51

There is nothing unusual about having an appreciation of the architecture, history and culture of Amsterdam - it's a lovely place. However only the most wilfully naive person would believe a stag do destination is selected for this appreciation.

JapanNextYear · 18/04/2016 15:57

It's got great bars, weed and a certain amount of easy titillation. All of which someone on a stag do could appreciate without actually shagging a prostitute or going to a sex show.

SquirrelStandoff · 18/04/2016 16:05

Also, I find the suggested idea very simplistic that people are either 100% trustworthy in all situations and circumstances and 100% impervious to group compliance and 100% capable of avoiding doing things they leter regret when off their face, or they are a 100% a complete untrustworthy shit and unworthy of having a relationship.

Aren't the majority of normal, flawed human beings somewhere in between ?

expatinscotland · 18/04/2016 16:07

I'd go there any day just for the weed.