Stag doo in Amsterdam

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Is it me or would most other women feel unsettled about a shed loads of blokes getting rat arsed near the red light district?

Squirrel: "They are going to see strippers, sex shows and some of the group will be using prostitutes. There will be alcohol/drugs which can hamper judgement, there will be a very easily accessed sex industry, there will be peer group pressure"

Unless you are going on this trip, you do NOT know that they ARE going to see strippers and sex shows and that some of the group will be using prostitutes. You are making an assumption and a sweeping generalisation. You do know some men actually can control themselves, don't give in to peer group pressure, don't smoke weed and some - shock horror - don't even drink alcohol.

You MAY be right. But you may NOT. I've seen equally unpleasant goings on at some hen nights in this country than what men might get up to in Amsterdam.

Is it only stag events or any visit to Amsterdam that is automatically seedy, depressing and sexist?

StillDrSethHazlittMD
Bless your little cotton socks

I'm married to someone who wouldn't want to go on a stag do Amsterdam because he knows how seedy, depressing and sexist the whole thing would be for anyone who has respect for women generally and their partner in particular.

Quite

Still, it has nothing to do with my point about those who appear to be in a relationship with someone they can't trust, not to whip their penis' out and start shagging prostitutes purely because they're in Amsterdam, on a stag do.

Squirrel - FFS, just seen your latest. How do you know there's not a football match going on that their all going to go and see and then get pissed. You're basically saying it is impossible for any man to control themselves and coming across as if there is nothing else in Amsterdam other than the sex industry, and that any many who even considers going there will be behaving in a sexist manner which is just so much total crap.

Guess what? I went to Amsterdam once. With a friend. We were both men. We never saw the red light district. Or smoked. I think I had two pints of cider one night. But clearly by going there, we had no respect for women.

Dropyoursword I don't understand what you mean? visiting a place that happens to have prostitutes is very different to actually going to a strip club.

My dh sometimes goes in to town on a night out, there are also prostitutes that work in that town. This is ok with me as dh won't use one.
If he went in to a strip club that would not be ok.

ilovesooty
If they involve the red light district

The last time I went to the Heineken Experience and did the Ajax tour and museum there seemed to be quite a lot of men enjoying the activity.

But you've already said they WILL involve the red light district, not IF....

Squirrel I stay in hotels near the red light district and drink in the vicinity when I visit, both alone and with friends. You're being utterly ridiculous.

Amsterdam is literally only a town of prostitutes according to some people on this thread
Do you really believe that? You're missing out.

Good point Vince

It was really just a general comment Roseberry, but I'd think it was a reasonable assumption to make that a group of men going to Amsterdam might visit a strip club.

Drop but by the same token, you could actually say that about men going to London. Ever been to Soho?

Sorry, I meant a group of men specifically going to Amsterdam for a stag do might, not just any group of men, in case anyone misunderstood me there.

Yeah, of course you could DrSeth

Depends on the type of blokes really.

Rowdy sexist pigs YANBU.

Cultured men who like to travel and have a few drinks YABU.

Not all men enjoy sex shows though
There are loads of men for whom it wouldn't appeal at all and it being a stag do wouldn't influence that.

And groups of women have never gone to see strippers on hen nights, either. They just don't tend to go to Amsterdam to do it.

This is such a crazy thread!
Your partner should be able to go anywhere without you worrying about him falling into a prostitute! Whether thats into the city/town you live or to Vegas/Amsterdam/Krakow etc
I just cant get my head around people saying 'oh well my partner wouldnt want to go where there are strippers he probably walks past somewhere every day thats either a lap dance club or brothel (if youre in the city).

Also I dont think visiting a lap dancing club is the same as visiting a brothel or live sex show.
I would have no problem with OH going to lap dancing bar, brothel or sex show and he'd be out on his ear

I managed to have a hen with no naked men involved - aren't I amazing?

Equally DH did not that some of the blokes wouldn't like to have done in his stag party.

For those that say he might visit a strip club, it is very likely they will visit worse. I have been twice in groups of married couples and a "strip club" is pretty tame for Amsterdam.

As a 40 year old woman (at the time) I was offered hard drugs on every corner, went in peep shows (I was curious and I admit subsequently saddened), was invited into (and refused) live sex shows (with or without audience participation) invited into prostitutes cubicles for threesomes, saw things in sex shops I never even knew existed and I am no prude at all !!

On a stag do, with all his mates, do you seriously believe that the worst they will do is have a few too many beers near the red light district?

When she found out, his attitude was ‘And? You’re not going to call off the wedding, are you?’ and she didn’t…

Of course not, it probably was one of those very big and expensive weddings ... where a lot of money is already spent before it even takes place.

Good reason to decide against an expensive wedding - ability to cancel it at the last moment if need be.

Yes, yes, Amsterdam is a beautiful city, and if a man wanted to go on a vacation there, then that would be totally okay.

But please. If you live very far from that place, you are not likely to pick it out for a stag night, among all other cities, just because of the lovely architecture or whatever. You go there because of the weed or because of the prostitution.
And even if you only go there because the fact that prostitution is so normalized there gives you a thrill ... then this is still a very questionable attitude.

I would be highly suspicious if my husband to be even planned a stag night. The whole culture surrounding this shit is toxic. Going to a strip club in this context is so normalized that a group of males not going to one is the exception rather than the norm.

MyLocal I dont know any one of my OH group of friends who would do what youre suggesting
They like a lot of beer, dressing up, the odd lap dance

I find it sad that you believe men together just cant keep their dicks in their pants.
That says more about you and your issues than anything else

the odd lap dance

That's a deal breaker for me.