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To be upset by the remarks of a psychic?

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EverySongbirdSays · 05/04/2016 18:58

Obviously I do know that most psychics are charlatans and this one certainly was. Nothing he told me was spontaneous and was all based off my answers to his questions. He said some pretty harsh things though - AIBU to be upset by them even though I know it's absolute rot.

  1. It's too late for me and I won't have natural children. I'm 34.

  2. I go after guys that are out of my league (whatever that is)

  3. can we talk about my weight? Would I go out with a fat person?

  4. I'll probably never marry and should get a cat!

Somebody help me see the funny side here I'm a bit upset even though I shouldn't be.

COST : £35

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EverySongbirdSays · 05/04/2016 22:42

Trills - meh maybe 40% true - nice try Grin

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CockacidalManiac · 05/04/2016 22:42

I feel there's a punchline coming

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EverySongbirdSays · 05/04/2016 22:43

But did you win that bet Crackers ?

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UnderCrackers5 · 05/04/2016 22:44

it came 7th

CockacidalManiac · 05/04/2016 22:45
Grin
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EverySongbirdSays · 05/04/2016 22:47

LMAOOOO - there's a perfect symettry there.

So you lost £7000 because of a psychic and you don't think it should be mocked?

You're making it up aren't you? Grin

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UnderCrackers5 · 05/04/2016 22:50

er...
it's a joke.

the point is, psychics are a joke

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EverySongbirdSays · 05/04/2016 22:53

Yes I got that it was a joke, as I thought was plain by my post.

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SmarterThanTheAverageBear16 · 05/04/2016 22:54

I see this thread has filled up with amateur charlatans. You're just as much fraudsters as the OP's psychic, you know. If anything you're worse, he's conning strangers for cash, thats more honest in a way that conning your friends and family for free.

UnderCrackers5 · 05/04/2016 22:59

you know what I really hate about this ?

quite often they are not conning strangers at all.

they get 'in' close up and personal. form a relationship

THEN they con you.

Fontella · 05/04/2016 23:12

I see this thread has filled up with amateur charlatans. You're just as much fraudsters as the OP's psychic, you know. If anything you're worse, he's conning strangers for cash, thats more honest in a way that conning your friends and family for free.

Oh do get over yourself!

Of 100 odd posts, about half a dozen have said they read tarot cards. Hardly 'filling up' a thread.

Of those handful - all have said they don't claim to have any psychic powers ... unlike the fraudster the OP went to see and paid 35 quid for the privilege.

None of those who have claimed to have an interest in Tarot have conned anyone, let alone 'family and friends' so how you deduce otherwise is a mystery. Do you have psychic powers or summat? Confused

The overwhelming majority of respondents to this thread have said it's a load of bollocks and those who have expressed an interest in Tarot as either a research project or psychological experiment, have pretty much also said it's a load of bollocks but perhaps with a tiny little bit of open mindedness - and there's fuck all wrong with that.

So where exactly are all the 'amateur charlatans filling up the thread' and 'conning friends and family with their free readings' you are banging on about, who are 'worse' than the £35 quid charging faker who upset the OP?

AliceInUnderpants · 05/04/2016 23:14

He sounds like a cockwomble. Didn't go by the initials JC by any chance did he?

SmarterThanTheAverageBear16 · 05/04/2016 23:15

You, Fontella. You're a charlatan, with your tarot reading. Wasn't that clear?

loveyoulikeaplanet · 05/04/2016 23:20

Hi Fontella- I see you think similar to me.

It's not a bad thing. I think it's nonsense but coming from a 'gypsy' background people will alway want me to be a psychic and will refute my own opinion.

I had my mother, Gran and Great Gran try to influence me.

So if you believe I'm psychic... carry on and enjoy. If you want me to read for you then PM with a question. I'll answer but that doesn't mean it'll be meaningful xx

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EverySongbirdSays · 05/04/2016 23:22

Nope Alice - I actually don't know his surname. First name S.

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Fontella · 05/04/2016 23:30

You, Fontella. You're a charlatan, with your tarot reading. Wasn't that clear?

Nope, not clear at all. And who are you to to accuse me or anyone else on this thread of anything?

Who am I being a 'charlatan' to exactly? What claims am I making, who am I deceiving, who am I conning, what fakery am I exhibiting, what lies am I telling?

NONE is the answer to all those questions and you have no right whatsoever to suggest otherwise with your ad hominem attack, which as far as I am aware, is completely against the rules on this forum.

What I am is a scholar and a sceptic contributing to a thread about a fake 'psychic' and an upset OP. I hate fakery in all its form and have visited over 20 so-called psychics in the course of my research and written nearly 1,000 pages of notes ... and my conclusion is, it's all bollocks.

I've never charged anyone a penny for anything, and never claimed to have any powers of any description so how I am 'worse' than the £35 charging lying faker the OP went to see' I'm not quite sure?

But as an open minded individual who doesn't believe that 2016 science has all the answers to everything, I'm not willing to write off the Tarot itself, which is an entirely different thing to fakers claiming to be able to predict the future. It's a 500 year old entirely innocent card game with beautiful imagery that has been hijacked by the occult and it's a fascinating and often surprising study that continues to hold my interest.

How that makes me a charlatan I'm not quite sure - but carry on with your ad hominem comments and I won't hesitate to report you.

Queenie73 · 05/04/2016 23:52

There is a good side to this OP. Every time you take a risk and succeed (get a date with someone you wouldn't normally have approached, get a new job you didn't think you had a chance of, whatever) you can look back and remember the idiot who was so very, very wrong.
He doesn't know anything except how to hurt people. I don't know why, maybe he had just been dumped, his rent was overdue and he had an itchy arse, who cares? But he was just taking his bad mood out on you, nothing more. When you have the life you want and worked to achieve, you can tell your hunky husband and gorgeous children all about this and they can laugh at the loses who will probably be doing the same job but with far fewer clients.
For some reason I seem to be a magnet for people who want to show me their psychic powers. Most of them are just dull, but some are quite threatening and I have been left feeling very upset and vulnerable. So I do have an idea how you feel. the last one was in the bed next to me when I was in hospital with pre-eclampsia. She kept going on about having a message from my mother. A very important message, and it was a matter of life and death. Eventually I lost my temper and told her that my mother wasn't actually bloody dead, so if she had a message she could just tell me herself!

LikeDylanInTheMovies · 06/04/2016 00:30

Obviously I do know that most psychics are charlatans

They are all charlatans and deceitful greedy pricks to boot who exploit the vulnerable. If anything, the fact that this one was overtly horrible and judgemental will make it clear that all they are doing is observing someone in front of them and making a host of assumptions.

But you should get a cat. It needn't cost £500 either. Pedigree cats = twice the work for half the fun. Rescue centres are full of fluffy bundles of fury fun. Our 12 year old rescue cat is curled up on the bed watching me out of one eye as I type this.

Kummerspeck · 06/04/2016 00:37

I saw a psychic who asked too many questions for my liking at a Mind, Body and Spirit fair in the North-West a few years back, initials SG, also does tarot cards. Wonder if it was him? He seems to do a lot around Lancashire and Yorkshire.

LikeDylanInTheMovies · 06/04/2016 00:38

It wasn't

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EverySongbirdSays · 06/04/2016 00:47

I went down to the rescue centre weeks ago. Every cat was either reserved or unavailable or had restricted needs or could only be taken if you took a group of three. They are also quite sniffy and make judgements about whether they think you should have the cat based on bizarre criteria. I decided to wait until I moved, I'm house hunting right now.

Thanks for the nice post Queenie - he seemed alright, nice enough but i think was judging me according to certain stereotypes and snap judgements was very prying for example i'm obviously disabled so he went on like that for an age with the boring comments about how "I havent let it stop me" Hmm

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LikeDylanInTheMovies · 06/04/2016 00:53

Fair dos, I've never experienced sniffiness, but others have told me that some shelters can be that way, but not all, so do try other shelters if you can. Good luck with the house hunt and try and forget the oxygen thief who has no more psychic powers than you or me.

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EverySongbirdSays · 06/04/2016 00:57

Kummerspeck not quite Yorkshire/Lancashire but not so far off as it wouldn't be worth travelling to make a few quid. Maybe same one.

Lived with his mother for years now a DP who takes all his calls and sits on his arse watching TV all day whilst S does readings.

Today wasn't a one off as friends have described it as like that when they went. They seemed nice enough but he seems to have 'settled' with his own partner - he was basically saying that I should take who ever shows the least bit interest in me and be grateful for it. I'm no supermodel, sure, but nor am I a prospective participant on Jeremy Kyle with greasy hair and half my teeth missing either! Grin

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Fontella · 06/04/2016 01:41

I saw a psychic who asked too many questions for my liking at a Mind, Body and Spirit fair in the North-West a few years back, initials SG, also does tarot cards. Wonder if it was him? He seems to do a lot around Lancashire and Yorkshire.

In my free, skeptical, no claims to psychic powers readings I don't ask a single question. The person I'm reading for doesn't speak at any stage. In fact I insist upon it.

But I bet my 'hit rate' is just as good as any fake psychic.

www.psychicscience.org/coldread.aspx

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EverySongbirdSays · 06/04/2016 02:13

My experience wasn't even THIS ^ sophisticated. I sensed the avenue he was going down in one instance but the common cliches didn't apply and he had to stop as he knew he was barking up the wrong tree.

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