To think that shops and pubs are no place for dogs?

[Misssss]

We went to the pub for dinner last night. It is a naice pub with a good menu. When we walked in at about 7.30pm there was a cacophony of barking because at least four dogs, owned by different people, had decided to "play," with each other.

This afternoon we were shopping at a little retail park. Lots of little handbag type dogs were being paraded round. One woman even let her two dogs walk all over the rugs on display.

Aibu to think that they shouldn't be there? Why can't the dogs be left at home. Obviously these weren't guide dogs, just pets.

Rousette
We enjoy taking ddog to the pub and ddogs like coming to the pub. At worst, they'll fall asleep under the table as they would at home, and best, they get cuddles and treats.
If we go out for a nice walk to the pub, of course the dog is going to come as well.
It's normal for all my dog-owning friends as well.

Yes Grays it absolutely does come from the parents, it makes me sad as dogs do such brilliant things for children emotionally as well as the life saving work that they can be trained to do.

Maryz

I have only had a few incidents but one sticks in my mind, a toddler asked his granny if he could stroke my dog, she said 'it'll have yer face off'.

Photo supplied.

Yes that vicious beast would surely de-face a child in one foul swoop

Um, could you post it to me when you are finished with the vest Maryz?

There's a few times I've had to keep my cool because of the way people have conducted themselves and their children around my dog.

One woman came up to my dog last week and just stood there, then poked him on the nose. Not a gentle awww poke. It was a full on poke. She didn't utter a word, just poked then walked off.

Another occasion a child ran straight up to my dog and then suddenly stopped about a CM away from him, looked down at him and proceeded to pull his ear. Luckily my dog is well trained and it didn't phase him. The parents didn't say a thing though, just stood a few feet away awwing. I ended up saying to the kid that when approaching a dog you must first do it slowly, ask their owners if it's okay and slowly extend your hand to let them get used to you. Not run up and come to a sudden halt then grab their ear

I think we would all get along much more if we just had mutual respect

Grays I already said it was a retired guide dog, so not in guide dog reins. No way of knowing it had been a guide dog until the owner said so. I had thought we'd suddenly turned a massive corner, but no TBH the only blame I put on myself is not doing more to put my DC above dogs. Shouting to my then 2 yr old running with a stick 'don't worry the owner will call it's dog' several times before then shouting 'Who owns this dog?', turns out not paying any attention to their dog. How do you teach a kid how to behave around dogs when their only interaction with dogs are forced on them by random dog owners?

The vest Maryz, just thinking of the opportunities it could open up. She is a bit low down to the ground to be believable though.

The training situation is perfect for you, I am very jealous.

So spare you think it's OK at 10.30 at night in a completely packed pub with lots of drinking, noise and frivolity to push your way in the door with a massive dog?

What's in it for the dog?

I have to reiterate I have nothing against dogs in pubs at the right time but not in these circumstances. It would be more comfortable all round if the dogs werent there - more room, no tripping over leads etc. I was jammed against the wall trying to have a laugh with friends with a curly haired huge dog in between us!

Scardy if I were you if I saw a well behaved dog in the park on a lead, I'd go and ask the owner if your son can have stroke. Your son will lose his fear if he interacts with well behaved dogs.

A few have said about hysterical parents, my sister is one who will cross a street when a big dog approaches but then she was badly bitten by a dog as a child. As for me, i dont cross the street but i do walk around and give a wide berth as i dont want to sneeze.
I really wish dog owners would not invite my lo saying "go on pet her, shes very gentle" as my daughter would but then ill suffer when i have to hold her hand and have nowhere to wash her hand, i can get a rash and sneeze, etc.
Not pleasant for me or my lo who ends up with an annoyed mum.

So now when out like today, when weathers lovely, im actively saying mind the dog poo and dont you dare touch that dog.

I think that we can all generalise, about people with young children, dogs, whatever.

My opinion is that dogs are a bigger benefit to society than not and we share this planet with animals. We are an arrogant species who want the world to work for us alone and sterilise much of it.

I think that children need a calm introduction to dogs, no shouting or waving sticks near them, teach them to be kind and accept that we all need to share space.

16 deaths from dogs in the UK since 2008

... and 7,332 hospital admissions (ie not just treatment, and not just attacks, but actual in-patient treatment) due to dog attacks in 2014/15 alone, over 1,500 of which were children.

I'm assuming the dog owner will have picked the bagged dog poo up yes?

Yes, you can tell that by the way they've left it lying on the fucking ground.

Which, no, is not okay. It's not okay at all to leave a bag of fucking poo at the entrance to a school/nursery. Why would you even think that?

Why are some dog owners so precious about that fact that some people just aren't into dogs. So what if someone 'never knows a dog's love'?

It's kind of like kids - when you have them you think they are the best thing ever, but there are plenty of people out there who don't feel the same. No need to get so defensive.

FWIW, I don't run off with my kids hysterically when a dog comes within 50 feet. I dont want my kids tk be scared of dogs for lots of reasons. But at the same time, it is quite annoying when you are sat in a pub garden and a dog runs over and licks your baby's actual face and then the owner saunters over half heartedly calling the dogs name and saying 'oh don't worry, he is just saying hello'.

Was amazed to see a man with his jack russell in our local Waitrose the other day. He was in a trolley - the dog not the man - standing with his front paws on the bar across the front of the trolley clearly enjoying his ride and the view.

He might have been some sort of assistance dog but he wasn't wearing a special vest so I assume not. Nobody said anything to the elderly man so maybe he has special dispensation, looked odd though.

I hope it's not going to become a trend I really don't want the food I'm buying being put into a trolley that has previously been occupied by someone's pet dog. I certainly won't be taking my dog food shopping.

Yes, you can tell that by the way they've left it lying on the fucking ground

Beside their dog. I take it you think they left the dog there as well then yeah?

It's in a bag. You'd complain if they took it in with them stinking up the place, so they've left it outside to pick up and pop in the bin later. You're not going to go over and touch it are you?

completely missing how thread has developed DH was also 'grassed up' on his way home from a walk when the barmaid asked if the dog wanted her usual!

I think people just don't know how to deal with dogs any more, probably because they rarely see them.

Actually, dog ownership has steadily gone up in the last few decades or so. Dogs, and their shit all over the pavements of every town and city in the UK, have never been more visible.

Why are some dog owners so precious about that fact that some people just aren't into dogs

I'm not bothered if people aren't into dogs. Just don't take the dislike out on me and my animals.

No, I'm not going to touch a bag of poo. A toddler might though, without knowing what it was. They might also step in it. It really is not on to leave bags of poo lying around anywhere, and especially not outside a school. I can't believe I'm even having to argue this point.

There have been plenty of comparisons between children and dogs on this thread. Is it therefore ok if I leave a shitty nappy lying around on the street? Or little bag full of poo that my toddler has crapped into? Perhaps outside a school, or outside your house, maybe?

I think people just don't know how to deal with dogs any more, probably because they rarely see them.

I disagree with this actually, at least where I live. You hardly see anyone walking anywhere round here without a dog, yoy rarely see someone just going for a walk or walking somewhere rather than jumping the car. It seems to be either 'take the dog for a walk' or 'drive'.

Hello Cruik nice to see you, you usually turn up on dog hating threads. How are you?

Did you include RTA injuries too?

So you often allow your toddler to run around on his/her own on a street do you? You're making up ridiculous scenarios - lets scrap bins because a toddler might put their hand in one

If you're leaving your pram outside and you leave a nappy in a bag at the side of it yes I think that's perfectly okay as long as you take it with you.

Do you think floors are sterile until a bag of poo touches them?