about Trump saying women should be punished for illegal abortions

[cakeycakeface]

I think he must have something wrong with him. Is he a narcissistic psychopath or something like that?

Seriously. What kind of head does this sort of rubbish come from? I simply do not understand his appeal. I feel like I must inhabit a parallel universe or something.

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The Democratic Party has also been in the vanguard on violence against women issues, including passage of the Violence Against Women Act, which was authored under the sponsorship of then Senator Joe Biden and signed into law by President Clinton. Republicans held up reauthorization of the act for some time during 2012, objecting to protections for undocumented immigrants and LGBT individuals.

Wtf

Seneca I agree about reproductive rights, but see my earlier post - I think it's been a terrific boon for both parties because one gets to placate its constituency by promising to ban it, and the other by promising to protect it. For any reasonable person, it's a private medical matter and the fact that it takes centre stage is sheer pageantry.

Not familiar with the Violence Against Women Act, but I'll certainly google it.

I'm not arguing that Republicans are great by any stretch, but just that there is no meaningful distinction. Look at how everyone thought that Obama was going to usher the US into this period of enlightenment, only to step up the drone programme beyond even Bush 2's and increase surveillance capabilities, and all the other things that I'm forgetting about right now

I don't know if anyone else has made this point (they probably have) but being elected is a bit of a numbers game. With his colourful past (wives, affairs, girlfriends) Trump is not dream material for the bible belt. But he needs to win the vote of a good number of christians/ evangelicals because they are an important part of the electorate in the US. I suspect his comments about abortions were a cheap way of pandering to that electorate.

Today the talking heads on US TV are saying that Trump may not get the nomination. It appears that he will lose Wisconsin on Tuesday, and the abortion kerfuffle may affect support in other states. He will likely have the most delegates going into the convention, but not enough to win the first ballot. After the first ballot, the delegates can do what they like, and what many of them may do is coalesce around another candidate, possible Kasich or even someone who has dropped out, like Marco Rubio. It will be interesting.

Kasich would be the choice, according to the polls, if the Republicans want to have a chance of winning the next election. He knows it and that is why he's still on the race.

I agree. Even though many of the anti-Trump establishment are endorsing Cruz, I think Kasich is getting behind-the-scenes encouragement to stay in the race.

in some states women who have miscarriages are jailed.

On the cuddly pregnancy threads, I see foetuses referred to as "babies" all the time. Therefore, isn't abortion baby-killing and aren't abortionists baby-killers? Why do abortionists use two different languages when talking about unborn babies? Does it depend on whether the unborn baby has been deemed worthy enough to be allowed live, or if he/she has been put on death row?Ps what do all you abortionists think of those wonderful partial-birth abortions, I'd be curious to know where you all stand on that?

Um really up to the pregnant woman what she calls her fetus. Doesn't make it accurate. I called mine Bob.

Twat.

He's a very scary individual indeed.

Not such a good idea to quote extensively from a hate post. It might end up deleted as well.

He was asked whether any of his previous partners have had an abortion and he dodged giving an answer.

To be fair I think it would be wrong for him to publicly share the medical history of all his sexual partners.

Bad enough sleeping with Donald Trump, worse to have to be a pawn in his election campaign decades later.

If none of them had, he could say so without anyone being at all concerned. Not answering suggests he either doesn't know or one of them has. The point the reporter was getting at is what is the responsibility of men who impregnate women.

squashtastic
"Um really up to thepregnant womanwhat she calls her fetus. Doesn't make it accurate. I called mine Bob.

Twat."

I hope you allowed little Bob to live, seeing as you had the "choice".

So easy to ignore the reality of what happens when women aren't given access to legal abortions when you can export the problem to Holyhead.

Back to Trump, he seems to have been a fairly sleazy and high octane consumer of women and so it would be surprising if none of his sexual partners had had abortions. It's just a s well he didn't disclose anything, the thought of some woman being founded by the press because she once had sex with him then had an abortion is not a nice one.

merrymouse
"So easy to ignore the reality of what happens when women aren't given access to legal abortions when you can export the problem to Holyhead."

There are hundreds, possibly thousands, of beautiful, healthy Irish children alive today who may not otherwise have been thanks to our "regressive" abortion laws. That's a good thing.

Irishdadthere are also many millions more Irish women who have had to beat a path to England to have abortions. There are also many millions of women worldwide who have died as a result of illegal abortion. Making abortion illegal does not stop abortion. It stops safe abortion. It doesn't stop sex outside marriage either, or rape, or foetuses having congenital abnormalities.

And Savita Halappanavar is dead thanks to your regressive abortion laws. That's not a good thing.

you can imagine as many beautiful healthy babies as you want, but the ferry is less than 70 euros return and cheaper flights are available. Irish women who don't want to be pregnant are going to the uk.

Making abortion illegal does not stop abortion. It stops safe abortion.
This is what makes me pro-choice.

Completely agree with lweji

So do i