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AIBU?

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To think DH is putting me in a difficult position?

171 replies

RaphaellaTheSpanishWaterDog · 29/03/2016 18:08

About five years ago my best friend (known all my life) invited us to lunch. At the time we were living on the other side of the country but had family close-ish to her house. While there our other halves got talking - they've known each other about 20 years but are not especially close - and her DH showed mine a childhood collection of items that my DH is a specialist in (dealer). My DH offered to take said items home and research them. We next saw my friend again about a year when the subject wasn't referred to and ditto the following year, but both were family gatherings when we all had other things on our minds. Since then we have moved even further away (4+ hrs drive).

Fast forward to a few weeks back when I received a b/day card with a message asking my DH to call hers - he would like the items back and as they'll be in the area 'soon' we could meet up.

Stupidly assuming DH knew exactly where the items in question were I suggested he dig them out and call friend's DH at which point he looked a trifle sheepish and said he 'thought' they were in the garage. Now, after buying this house in late 2014 we moved a garage-full of stuff from the storage unit we rented when living at our previous house, so our garage is pretty chocka. I offered to help DH search - which took several days - but to no avail. We also went through cupboards in the house - it's a restoration project and we're living in a building site at the mo, so I thought they were just mislaid - again, no joy.

At that point I started to get suspicious of DH - he does have a bit of a tendency to be a little economical with the truth (nothing really bad, just 'white lies' supposedly to protect me/other people from getting hurt......) - and asked him if he'd either sold them intentionally or inadvertently perhaps? He was adamant that he hadn't and started suggesting our (very expensive and otherwise wholly reliable) removers had nicked them. I should point out here that these items are of no intrinsic, only sentimental value and could probably - with some effort - be replaced.

Anyway, he initially said he'd call friend's DH, then went quiet and when reminded a couple of weeks later he'd (conveniently?) forgotten all about it Hmm Now several weeks have passed and I'm feeling awful - my friend doesn't have our landline no and we've both changed mobile numbers since we last spoke. We no longer do FB after we were stalked by someone relating to our business and we don't know when their planned trip this way is. I'm worried that my friend and her DH will turn up on our doorstep when we least expect it. Worse still it's her b/day soon and I now feel I can't send her a card without mentioning the subject.

I feel DH has put me into a difficult position that threatens to undermine a lifelong friendship.....what should I do and AIBU?

OP posts:
Lunar1 · 29/03/2016 18:26

If he has sold them his way of dealing with this is shocking, allowing you to invest time in searching. I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him.

ilovesooty · 29/03/2016 18:26

If he won't do the decent thing she can't make him I suppose. I'm not sure I'd want to live with a liar and a thief.

Waltermittythesequel · 29/03/2016 18:27

It never dawned on you once in the last five years that maybe you should return the items??

Fucking hell!

Coconutty · 29/03/2016 18:28

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wigglesrock · 29/03/2016 18:29

I'd be starting to worry had he done this before - whose idea was it to come off FB/ change mobile number? I know you mention you were being stalked in relation to your business - are you sure he hasn't a track record of screwing people over with regards to his/your business.

He has well and truly fucked up, it sounds deliberate as opposed to an honest to God heart sinking moment of carelessness.

expatinscotland · 29/03/2016 18:29

'We no longer do FB after we were stalked by someone relating to our business and we don't know when their planned trip this way is.'

Probably another client your husband fucked over. You need to wise up that your husband is a liar and thief.

yorkshapudding · 29/03/2016 18:30

It's all very well telling OP her husband must tell her but what can she do if he won't? Waterboard him?

I suppose I would hope that OP impressing on her DH how upset/worried she is about this, that he is ruining a lifelong friendship that means a great deal to her and that she isn't prepared to let it drop so he might as well come clean would be enough to get him to talk. If not then he's a a twat of the highest order and in her position I'd probably LTB to be honest.

ilovesooty · 29/03/2016 18:32

If people run a successful honest business they don't change their contact details for spurious reasons.

Buckinbronco · 29/03/2016 18:33

Ah LTB. And my MN bingo card is complete Grin

I don't think sort of thing is that uncommon actually. Well, not this specific example, but similar. I had a friend whose DH puked on another friends carpet at he was too embarrassed to sort it out and arrange carpet cleaners. She was stuck in the middle too

RaskolnikovsGarret · 29/03/2016 18:34

You are married to a thief and a liar. I feel bad for you and your friend.

leelu66 · 29/03/2016 18:34

I think it would be harsh to blame the OP for this. The giving of the items took place between the DHs. It's the OP's husband's responsibility to sort this.

I do agree, OP, that you should still acknowledge your friend's birthday and don't withold your contact details.

If your DH continues to be in denial, then you may need to be upfront with your friend and say that your DH is being a twat.

JolieMadame · 29/03/2016 18:35

Your DH sounds decidedly shady to me.

Can the items be replaced or are they of sentimental value?

Whether they can now find them or not I'd be ashamed of the amount of time I'd had them already if I were you. You both sound as flaky as each other tbh.

expatinscotland · 29/03/2016 18:35

'I had a friend whose DH puked on another friends carpet at he was too embarrassed to sort it out and arrange carpet cleaners.'

That's just being an arsehole.

MaudGonneMad · 29/03/2016 18:35

There's quite a difference between being sick in someone's home and stealing items that had been entrusted to you.

ImperialBlether · 29/03/2016 18:36

What would annoy me on top of him being so cavalier with your friend's things, is the way he let you spend days searching for them, knowing damn well they weren't there.

CosyNook · 29/03/2016 18:37

I think your 'lifelong friendship' is over

Gobbolino6 · 29/03/2016 18:37

Were you really stalked, or has he only told you half the story there as well?

expatinscotland · 29/03/2016 18:37

' It's the OP's husband's responsibility to sort this.'

But he won't. Because he's a liar. So OP, if she wants to try to salvage the friendship, will have to tell them the truth: that her husband sold them behind all their backs and pocketed the money.

Vintage45 · 29/03/2016 18:41

I'd be having a very long and hard look at why I'm with such a manipulative arse to be honest OP.

Luisanna · 29/03/2016 18:41

He has put you in an awful position, how you deal with him is entirely up to you. I don't think I could cope with living with a liar, that had me spending hours searching for items that he knew weren't there, that's just taking the piss! I would definatly send your friend a birthday card. I'd include a letter, explaining exactly what's happened and Id tell dh about the letter. He might lie 'to protect feelings' (more like his skin) but I wouldn't be joining in with his lies. Have no clue what I'd write in the letter though, but I wouldn't be defending his arse, that's for sure.

Crabbitface · 29/03/2016 18:43

YANB - he has and I'd be raging!

You say that there is no value to the items but if your husband is a dealer in said items they must hold some value. Then you say it's "only" sentimental. I have some belongings from my childhood that really are worthless but if a friends husband (or anyone else including myself) lost them I'd be devastated.

I'm not entirely sure how someone inadvertently 'sells' something that doesn't belong to them.

If he is not willing to apologise and replace the items you are going to have to do it yourself if you want to salvage anything of your friendship. But this will make them think much less of your husband.

BalloonSlayer · 29/03/2016 18:43

I guess if you want to salvage the friendship (because believe me they will have been wondering and getting angry about the missing stuff for five years and they will now be at boiling point with the friendship hanging by a thread if it has come to a point where they are planning to drop in unannounced and collect it) you will have to:

  1. Ring friend and say that you have been through the garage and can't find the stuff.
  2. Say you are furious with your DH for not taking better care, grovellingly apologise and stress that you are determined that her DH won't lose out.
  3. Ask her DH to put together a list from Ebay* of the same/similar items and their prices and you will give him the money. If he is clever he can make a bit of money out of you by picking the most expensive auctions as there is no guarantee that his stuff will have gone for that much, but you will have to suck it up and cough up.
  4. Of course if the items turn up after this you can sort out between you whether he wants to buy them back.

It's basically all you can do really.

What you do about your liar of a husband is another matter, but it's not really what you asked.

*I say Ebay as I know a lot of auctioneers of toys (which I am assuming these things are as it is a childhood collection) have physical auctions which also take place on Ebay and the results are still on there.

Waltermittythesequel · 29/03/2016 18:45

I agree with PP.

This coupled with the 'stalking' is very shady.

Crappyvalley · 29/03/2016 18:47

They were a 'childhood collection ' of items your dh is a dealer in. He would surely have looked after such a collection. Maybe it was valuable rather than just a sentimental collection and your dh has taken advantage of this Hmm
It sounds like he knows full well what happened but won't admit it. I feel sorry for your friends.

MiffleTheIntrovert · 29/03/2016 18:50

Op I guess you've got the point by now.

I feel a bit sorry for you coming back to read all these replies and wonder if it's been a bit of a shock or if people are confirming what you already know, despite your minimising in your OP.

Are you really happy being in a relationship with someone who you know to be an untrustworthy liar, and suspect of being a thief?

Relationships might give you better advice than AIBU, if you're not happy.