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Lahore bombing - where is Christian god?

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lulucappuccino · 28/03/2016 14:16

Ok, I know this is a very clichéd question, but 70+ people, mainly children, brutally murdered at a Christian, Easter celebration.

Families gone. Lives shattered. Unbearable pain.

WHY would god allow this?

Aibu to think this sort of thing proves there is no Christian god. Or if there is, "he's" not a good force?

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herecomethepotatoes · 29/03/2016 07:18

and the bible is VERY clear that god is a he, Colchestergal. If you were trying to make a feminist point by referring to god as 'she' then maybe religion isn't for you as, as far as misogynistic texts go, the Abrahamic religious books are some of the nastiest imaginable.

Colchestergal · 29/03/2016 07:18

I have no desire to argue for or against. I'm flabbergasted at the responses and levels people swoop to about their crusade.

I merely point out to you and many of the posters on this thread how personal your comments are.

Have people who do believe on this thread said that the non believers are ignorant, weak etc, etc.?

sportinguista · 29/03/2016 07:21

People do bad things as well as good. It's called free will and choice. Sometimes a human being can do something stunningly bad and stunningly bad, often in the same short space of time. It's called being human and nobody's really figured it all out.

Gods if they do exist, let us get on with it I'm afraid.

herecomethepotatoes · 29/03/2016 07:32

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BlueMoonRising · 29/03/2016 07:43

Believers can be very critical of non-believers. Not necessarily on this thread, granted (I haven't read it all) but I have been told that:

I will go to hell
I need to be saved
If I don't allow myself to be saved than there is no hope for me
I must be immoral because how can I be moral if I don't follow the Bible and god's word
How can I understand what morality is if I haven't read the Bible

Although if I was to start following some of the Bible's readings, I'm pretty sure I'd get into a bit of bother... stoning people isn't generally accepted around here.

DontcarehowIwantitnow · 29/03/2016 07:46

anyone who says "He works in mysterious ways" should unceremoniously be thumped in the face!

Aren't you delightful Hmm

BlueMoonRising · 29/03/2016 07:50

Dontcare - did you read the bit leading up to that? The boot about the seriously ill child??

BlueMoonRising · 29/03/2016 07:51

Bit, not boot.

DontcarehowIwantitnow · 29/03/2016 07:54

Dontcare - did you read the bit leading up to that? The boot about the seriously ill child??

Yes, and I have had a DC that has died and a sleeping baby and miscarriages.

herecomethepotatoes · 29/03/2016 07:56

dontcare - and did anyone tell you that god works in mysterious ways?

DontcarehowIwantitnow · 29/03/2016 07:58

Yes they did and more. I may or may not agree.

I wouldn't threaten to thump someone in the face for their belief.

herecomethepotatoes · 29/03/2016 07:59

I didn't say threaten; I said thump them.

BlueMoonRising · 29/03/2016 08:01

I guess you don't understand the emotion behind loss.

That particular phrase is generally said at the worst moments in a person's life (bereavements etc). It's trite and to have someone basically say 'god is wonderful, he has done this for a reason' when you are just bereaved?? Totally insensitive.

Colchestergal · 29/03/2016 08:02

Herecome

"Ididn't say threaten; I said thump them."

That's ok then Hmm

DontcarehowIwantitnow · 29/03/2016 08:04

I guess you don't understand the emotion behind loss.

Seriously. After my previous posts you are saying I 'don't understand the emotion behind loss'.

Unbelievable.

herecomethepotatoes · 29/03/2016 08:06

colchester yes, because someone stupid enough to believe that it was an appropriate thing to say is too stupid to understand reason.

Having said that, I didn't thump them, I told them to leave and the comment should clearly be taken slightly tongue-in-cheek.

BlueMoonRising · 29/03/2016 08:10

Seriously? After me saying I hadn't read all the posts in this thread, you think I've read all your posts?

Maybe you didn't read that one...

It doesn't take a psychologist to figure out that that particular phrase is not appropriate in times of loss, with the potential exception of people that you KNOW are devout Christians.

IthinkIamsinking · 29/03/2016 08:13

What does god actually do?
Nothing.

InisSunset · 29/03/2016 08:46

I'm amazed that Christians are getting slated yet again when all they did was get themselves killed. Most of the killings going on all over the world are being done in the name of Islam, but for some strange reason this latest atrocity is being used yet again to have a go at Christianity. Unbelievable.

BlueMoonRising · 29/03/2016 08:55

a) this thread was started to discuss the existence of a Christian God, not to discuss the bombings per se.

b) historically, Christians have held their own as far as killing goes abagond.wordpress.com/2013/04/24/are-christians-more-violent-than-muslims/

herecomethepotatoes · 29/03/2016 08:59

"I'm amazed that Christians are getting slated yet again when all they did was get themselves killed. "

It seems that religion is getting slated rather than it being Christianity.

"Most of the killings going on all over the world are being done in the name of Islam"

What are you basing that on? Fox news?

www.juancole.com/images/2013/04/relviolence.jpg

source: www.juancole.com/2013/04/terrorism-other-religions.html

Colchestergal · 29/03/2016 09:09

Blue moon, your article says that the 1st and 2nd World wars are to be blamed on Christians.

The 1st world war is a war of socialism. The 2nd based upon the 1st and of greed and power.

Your article is in my eyes a naff one.

InisSunset · 29/03/2016 09:17

Yes I'm aware what the thread was started about, but that's part of my point, to focus on the wrongs of Christianity when the news is about Christians who have been killed is just bizarre, surely it would be more appropriate to concentrate on the wrongs of Islam at a time like this. Christians have held their own as far as killing goes but fortunately it's moved on from those times. Not so Islam. Herecomethepotatoes what am I basing that on? Shock......that anyone could ask that but obviously I'm basing it on fact.

The three most dangerous countries in the world at this moment in time are Syria, Afganistan and Iraq.......work it out.

Those links you've put up are meaningless, written by someone with their own biased agenda.

Sallyingforth · 29/03/2016 09:21

I'm amazed that Christians are getting slated yet again when all they did was get themselves killed
As others have said, Christianity is not blameless. In the days of the crusades and the Inquisition, Christian extremists were just as vicious as Muslim extremists.
The difference now is that present day Christians generally follow the New Testament rather than the Old, and they 'turn the other cheek'. Unfortunately a section of Islam still lives in the Dark Ages.
I do agree that there is a tendency to 'victim blaming' when Christians are being slaughtered.

Sallyingforth · 29/03/2016 09:23

Crossed with Sunset. You missed Pakistan from your list.

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