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AIBU...to not like DP's sister?

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Shopaholic84 · 23/03/2016 14:14

DP and I have been together almost 5 years, we live together and got engaged last year. Very happy. All good.

This weekend his parents and sister and her husband are coming to stay for the whole bank holiday weekend and I am dreading it, mainly because of his sister.

It's really hard for me to say why, as it isn't like she's outwardly nasty. However, she is just incredibly self absorbed, she literally makes no effort to enquire about ANYONE else or their life. Just sits there and waits to be asked about hers and then happily sits, talking about herself.

It became apparent very quickly when I first met her and the rest of his family that she is absolutely adored and fawned over 24/7. She is the centre of the family's universe and everyone else is expected to make her the centre of theirs too.

I have known this woman for 5 years and I can honestly say that in that time she has barely spoken to me. She knows absolutely nothing about me nor is she interested. Which is fine, I don't expect people to have an avid interest in me or my life, however, I'm also not particularly interested in her or her life but when we're left alone in a room together or see each other at a family gathering/meal etc, it would be a bit awkward if we didn't speak. So, I make conversation with her, chat about anything and everything really, but mostly I ask her Q's about her DD, or her job, how's the house renovating going etc etc. Just general, everyday polite chit chat. Because, you know, that's what most 'normal' human beings do don't they?!

It's really difficult to explain, but events have been cancelled before, events that are quite big and have taken months of planning, because she's 'tired' and doesn't want to attend. So instead of just going ahead without her, the whole thing gets cancelled. Because the world doesn't turn unless she's there, when in actual fact, she doesn't really add much at all, just sits there murmuring 'hmm' 'umm' at conversations, until it (inevitably) turns to focus on her and then you can't shut her up.

18 months ago, DP got a promotion at work and we had to move a couple of hours drive away. This has kinda made things worse between her and I as instead of just seeing her for a couple of hours, I have to see her for a whole weekend or more. I find it exhausting.

SIL has invited herself down to stay 8 times in the last 18 months. This will be the 9th time and I really am dreading it.

For a start the mess- honestly, every single room is strewn with clothes, hers, her husbands and DDs. Their DD is now 2 and very cute, but obviously with small children/ toddlers comes mess. The kitchen walls and floor are covered in food after every meal. There is dirty nappys left in the kitchen bin (vom) that we don't know about until they start smelling. Last time they came SIL let DD play with play dough.....all over a cream carpet. Go figure. SIL asks for multiple cups of tea/ waters/ juices all day and afterwards, the rooms are strewn with dirty cups, mugs and glasses.

I wouldn't mind about any of the above if it was a guest that was occasional, I. E a TRUE guest. I enjoy looking after guests, but really, after all this time she can't even stick a cup in the dishwasher after it's been used?! I'm not her maid, but that's exactly how I feel.

I get married in September, my MOH is yet to receive an RSVP to my hen. SIL has barely spoken to me about the wedding. She has always treated me with such disdain, like I'm not a permanent fixture. I could understand it if pre me, DP was a player and had a different girl every week, but he only had a few other girl friends before me and they only lasted a year or so. He certainly didn't live with or propose to any of them.

I have 2 brothers, I haven't always been fond of their girlfriends, however you'd never have known, as whether I liked them or not I was still polite and friendly and made conversation where I could.

I guess it's been 5 years and most of the time, especially since we've moved away, I don't really give her a second thought. DP talks about her and tells me what she's been up to etc a lot and I just make the right noises. It is easy for me to just forget about her. But on weeks like this, where I am due to be in her company for 3-4 days at a time, I just feel really resentful and exhausted at the prospect of having to 'entertain' her as a guest. Why should I make the effort to make her welcome in my home when she can barely bring herself to acknowledge me? Well, in fact that's all she does.

It's strange, because we're actually very similar people. There is only 2 years age difference between us, we're both sociable types with lots of friends (sorry that sounds bleurgh I know!) we like the same music, both like to have a drink and a laugh. Yet, she's just never been arsed about getting to know me, at first it made me feel like crap, now it just makes me feel angry and resentful that I have to be all sweetness and light to her.

So.....WIBU to feign an illness and hide in the bedroom all weekend to avoid her and having to listen to no doubt everyone sitting there discussing only her and what she's been doing and what she feels for hours on end?! (Mostly joking about the feigning illness part!)

Has anyone else got a SIL that makes no effort or practically blanks them for no apparent reason? If so, how do you deal with it?

OP posts:
XiCi · 26/03/2016 10:17

You seem to have isolated yourself which is just going to heighten these feelings. I would try and make more of an effort, maybe let your dh know you're struggling a bit. TBH I find it quite mind boggling that you have not discussed it with him before. You're about to be married, you need to be able to communicate.
You obviously don't like each other, it happens, all you can do is be polite to each other and find a way to rub along because she is going to be in your life as long as you are with your DP. If everyone genuinely adores her she must have some good qualities, and you do sound very jealous and bitter in your posts. She will definitely know you don't like her which is why she is probably putting off the hen do rsvp. Ask her to invite a friend along with her so you don't feel like you have to look out for her. It might be useful to see what your friends make of her.
I wouldn't like 2 big dogs around my toddler so I don't think it's unreasonable to ask for them to be kept away from her though I do see how it would add to your feeling of the house being invaded! It's your DPs family who he obviously loves a great deal so if you don't sort this out somehow it will cause real problems

derektheladyhamster · 26/03/2016 10:17

Yy to not chasing sil about replying to hen party, if there was no RSVP date, ask moh to send 1 email/ text with a date on and if she doesn't reply - result!

littleleftie · 26/03/2016 10:25

Re the dogs, if OP was talking about taking them to SILS house then she would have a point. However, SIL has chosen to make repeated, extended stays to OPs house and I think OP should be getting bigger dogs to deter her Grin

No way would I marry this man - this is what your life would be like - dancing attendance on SIL and having no say in who occupies your home. Is this really what you want to sign up for?

YouTheCat · 26/03/2016 10:30

Just think what this will all be like once you're married to him and have children. Lay down some ground rules now.

No more extended, frequent visits.

No locking away of dogs for long periods of time.

No picking up after them.

And you must be asked before his family book to stay.

Once you have kids, you'll have less space for a start. If they are only 2 hours away, I don't see why they can't just come for an afternoon or one overnight?

PhoenixReisling · 26/03/2016 10:36

I don't think you sound as though you are sulking either.

I would not be able to contain my rage for an entire weekend....you are actively being ignored by everyone...in your own home...fuck that shit.

I think that you need to pull DP aside now and tell him that you are being made to feel uncomfortable and that as this is your home too you would like to be consulted about anyone staying.

Wolpertinger · 26/03/2016 10:43

Agree don't remind her about the hen do. She clearly can organize herself about things she wants to do. And you don't actually want her there.

Her not coming would be a result. You get to enjoy your hen without the world's most self-obsessed woman ruining it for you. And for the rest of your marriage you have proof to your DH that you and she are not close and she was rude by snubbing your hen.

DoreenLethal · 26/03/2016 11:03

Ask her loudly about her rsvp for the hen do

Oh goodness me no - why invite her at all?

If she asks, say you only invited people who asked about you once in the last year.

Roussette · 26/03/2016 11:04

God I wouldn't be chasing her re the hen do, I'd be relieved it looked like she wasnt coming!

I'd be so in her face talking to her, she wouldn't know what'd hit her. I'd ask her a question and then not wait for the answer becaue I would answer it myself. But I'm contrary like that Grin

I just would not have someone ruling the roost in my home.

LadyPriggsbottom · 26/03/2016 11:19

I completely sympathise with you OP and I think it's so hard to assert yourself when a whole family, including your DP are fawning over a person who is being a self-absorbed twunt. I know this from experience! I worried so much about coming across as aggressive towards my SIL. The family motto seemed to be "we must support poor X" when she is and was a very capable woman who did not need their help at all.

It's hurtful to be told your sister is an arsehole, so I get why you might not want to raise this with your DP right now - you probably don't want to hurt or upset him. It's also easy to wonder why DP isn't being more assertive either but he probably just doesn't know any different.

He will see sense I am sure and it won't hurt to gently try to open his eyes in a non-aggressive way. It took a long time and we did fall out about it a few times, but, as he grew up a bit (we met when we were very young), my DH stopped cow towing to his sister so much and things are much more balanced now as I said up thread. I really hope things work out for you OP - it's a horrible situation.

Hissy · 26/03/2016 11:21

I know the not chasing the invite is tempting, but I wonder if Sil is looking to lie and say she wasn't invited.

Tbh tho, i would call off the hen do, the wedding and i would leave this shower of Wankers to it.

If you marry into this, you'll have a life time of it, either with you still in the picture, or God forbid because you have kids with him and tie yourselves together forever.

How well exactly do you think Sil will take your wedding detracting from the glow she basks in? Or a child being born?

And the kids will be treated differently. Your own children will come a poor second best by every single one of them, their father included.

That's what is at stake here. Either get these pathetic ignorant and low class individuals brought up to speed on manners and civility or walk away and never look back.

Hissy · 26/03/2016 11:23

You have one chance, and that is to call it all off and tell this man (he's not a partner, he isn't even on your side) that it's all off unless this heroine worship stops and they behave appropriately towards you.

At the very least you will expect him to put them straight about how they behave when in your home.

ISpeakJive · 26/03/2016 11:26

OP, you do realise that if you marry this guy, you will have years and years of this shit? Don't think your blood pressure could take it.........

MistressDeeCee · 26/03/2016 11:27

YANBU. She sounds entirely unlikeable. However, she doesn't live with you does she? She is not your sister. & how often do you see her? Yes she is coming as a guest, Id hate that but she isn't the only one coming so surely you can deflect some of the ire you feel, or are you going to spend the whole time concentrating solely on her and what she does and doesn't do, what she does and doesn't say? Why are you so focused on her?

She doesn't like you. But you don't like her either. & you write as if she is your focus, the centre of everything, and not your DP. You can tell your DP how you ffeel about her. But, really? Ive been with OH ages now I cannot stand his sister and his sister's daughter, and I know they don't like me. But Im not in a relationship with them. They don't live with me or sleep in my bed, I don't like having to come across them but aside from that I don't give a fuck. How I feel about myself, my life, my relationship is certainly not going to be dictated by them, I don't care enough about them to allow that to happen.

You care about this woman though and seem caught up in making it a huge deal and isolating yourself over it too so, if she's that important to you then maybe don't marry her brother.

Waltermittythesequel · 26/03/2016 11:37

I wouldn't chase her about the hen do because your MOH will have proof of repeated attempts to get an answer, should you need it.

But I do agree that you need to have a very serious talk with DP before you even consider marrying him.

Do you want this for the rest of your life??

littleleftie · 26/03/2016 11:42

mistress have you RTFT? This is the 9th time in 18 months that SIL has come to OPs house for an extended stay.

I doubt she would be posting if she just saw her at family get togethers 3 or 4 times a year.

Shopaholic84 · 26/03/2016 11:54

I've already stated, in day to day life, I honestly never give her a second thought. It's only when a visit is impending that I give her any headspace.

I have been complete sweetness and light this morning, enquiring after everyone, asking SIL endless questions about niece. She still hasn't asked me anything. Like literally, nothing. We were sat here earlier and I had to make small talk re niece in end as the silence was killing me.

It is just easier to give in and pander to it all to be honest, so, for today at least that's what I'll do. It really won't be possible (at this rate!) to speak to DP before they leave so I'm going to have to just suck it up aren't I, but the dogs are staying out, I don't care. The house is a tip because I haven't done any tidying yet but bugger it, I'm doing what you've all said and leaving it for them. I'm not a maid or a servant.

I don't think I'll be able to hold my tounge anymore re saying to DP that SIL is completely indifferent to me and my life. It's about time I said something. Not that it will change anything but it'll make me feel better.

OP posts:
derektheladyhamster · 26/03/2016 12:03

I would only bother with her when you are in the other families company (especially stbdh) so they can see what us going on. Start talking about the wedding, that's a big deal for dh's parents at least. Are your nieces involved within the wedding party. Ask your mil her advice, has she thought about what she is going to wear. Make the conversation about you and dh.

After all, they are with you to see you both...... Grin

diddl · 26/03/2016 12:06

"SIL is completely indifferent to me and my life."

That really shouldn't matter.

I mean, she's rude, but why do you care?

You've been polite, that really should be enough.

Unfortunately, if you can't bear the silence, that's your problem.

Husband & I sit & read at his parents!Grin

Wolpertinger · 26/03/2016 12:10

Can't bear the silence - pick up a book/magazine/phone and read.

This is what I do at DH's parents. There are only so many questions you can ask about their very dull friends I have never met.

Or do something you needed to do not the tidying or anything in anyway helpful to the visit as life is not on hold just because they have arrived.

StillStayingClassySanDiego · 26/03/2016 12:13

It is just easier to give in and pander to it all to be honest.

Stop thinking this ^ for a start.

PhoenixReisling · 26/03/2016 12:21

If you can't stand the silence.....then get on your tablet and MN/browse Grin

pandarific · 26/03/2016 12:22

Suggest a trip to the cinema this evening? If not the whole gang, see if a few people would like to go and see batman vs superman or something. Then when you come in, big yawn, wasn't that NICE, and off to have a bath.

OH. And really, someone needs to go tomorrow to do a shop, don't they? That person could be you! I love doing grocery shopping so this may only be me, but pick a naice supermarket, whizz round there in half an hour and spend the other hour in the coffee shop with a nice book. Then return with food, looking like butter wouldn't melt.

pandarific · 26/03/2016 12:23

And don't do any cleaning!

PhoenixReisling · 26/03/2016 12:26

Also, I wouldn't pander to it......this is your home and if your guests are going to continue to be rude and your DP is joining in, then I would be calling them out on it.

ThatsNotMyRabbit · 26/03/2016 12:31

Do not marry this absolute lettuce of a man.

Quite frankly I couldn't fancy a bloke who spent his time crawling up his sisters bumhole - even if she was nice!

As it is she sounds horrendous. I'd give him one chance. Tell him straight how you feel, point out what a bitch she is and how pathetic it is that him and his daft parents fawn over her.

Don't pull your punches. Be straight and matter of fact. If he's going to take offence better you find out now.

I would NOT be having this shit. They'd have been out after an hour.

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