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My dad and DH have fallen out - what do I do?

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WelcomeToMusicTown · 18/03/2016 10:18

I don't want to drip-feed so apologies if this is long. My dad and my DH have fallen out and I feel stuck in the middle and unsure what to do.

DH and I (both in our 30s) have a 2 month old baby. When my waters broke just before midnight I went to the hospital alone, taking a taxi (we're in London, about 15-20 mins from the hospital depending on traffic). I insisted DH stay home as he wasn't feeling well, I knew I'd most likely be sent straight home, and I wanted him to get as much sleep as possible before I really needed him during active labour. He had his phone ringer on so had he needed to join me at the hospital he could have. In hindsight he feels that he should have insisted he come with me but I've always been very independent - in over 7 years together I've never asked or expected him to meet me at bus stops, walk me home etc - so in his tired and ill state he just accepted my insistence. As it happened I was indeed sent home and he went back with me in the morning when labour had progressed. I didn't think any more of it except feeling probably quite proud of myself for doing that first trip alone when I was heavily pregnant and a little in shock. Again in hindsight, that was probably quite naive of me but it didn't cross my mind to do it any differently.

My dad visited us a couple of weeks back and took DH aside to have a word. I had no idea what it was about as he'd said nothing to me, but it turned out he wanted to tell DH how upset he - and the rest of the family - was that he'd let me go to hospital alone in a vulnerable state. Their stories differ at this point. Dad says that he voiced his concerns but DH wouldn't listen so he lost his temper. DH says that my dad told him he's a bad father, that the whole family thinks so and that they've all - including me?! - been worrying about the hospital incident for weeks. In actual fact my mum says she was concerned (and of course I understand why) but she and my dad's partner made him promise not to bring it up and cause a scene - but he ignored that and did it anyway.

DH says my dad then grabbed him and raised his fist as if to hit him. DH at this point was freaked out by his aggression so pulled away from him and left our flat. All I know is I heard DH tell my dad to fuck off, then saw my dad, who was shaking with anger, chasing after him shouting that he was a fucking coward and to grow some balls. DH refused to come home until my dad had left.

I and my mum tend to believe DH's version as my dad has a history of being very short tempered and occasionally violent - DH literally wouldn't even raise his voice to someone and is the least aggressive person I know. My mum agrees that DH is probably telling the truth - she and my dad divorced partly because my dad was so volatile. He has in the past been held in a police cell after attacking his girlfriend (he claims not to remember) and has threatened suicide and self harm in the presence of, or in order to manipulate, me and my sisters.

To give a final bit of context: DH was already very stressed when my dad visited as my dad is very money and career focused and has on several occasions taken DH aside to ‘talk’ to him about his attitude to these things. DH isn't career-minded and I'm the main breadwinner in our relationship. He's also currently unemployed after being let go at new year and looking for a new job which has been making things hard work on top of having a new baby so he was already very depressed and down on himself and expecting a lecture from my dad made him feel worse. DH has made huge efforts to build a relationship with my dad but has been increasingly frustrated that dad only ever talks about money and doesn't seem interested in him as a person. Equally my dad is clearly frustrated that his daughter isn't being looked after in the traditional alpha male sense and while his approach is often wrong he clearly is just looking out for me.

However, after this fight my DH wants nothing more to do with my dad. He's scared of him, thinks he's frankly psychotic and isn't showing any signs of forgiving him for what he sees as an emotional and physical attack in his own home. My dad has tried to offer an olive branch via WhatsApp but DH won't accept his apology or even speak to him. This was really the last straw.

Now I'm in the situation of my dad wanting to still be part of my - and my baby's - life but logistically this now being difficult (he lives a couple of hours away) and also, to be completely honest, I feel resentful that he went ahead and caused this situation despite my mum and his current partner both begging him not to say anything. He's sending me very nice messages and claiming that he doesn't want to jeopardise my relationship with DH but that's all very well in hindsight - as usual he had to say his piece and to hell with the consequences. He's had a problem with my DH for a while so this was a long time coming but I'm angry that it had to be now when we're already going through a lot. I'm questioning whether I really want this man in my life but knowing how volatile and depressive he is I would, at the end of the day, feel bad for cutting him out. It's also not in my nature to do so.

I do wonder if I and my mum/sisters have been enabling this behaviour for too long. My mum agrees in one breath but in the other is saying he's still my dad and is checking to make sure I'm still sending him pictures of my baby so he doesn't miss out.

I just don't know how to navigate this situation. I'd like DH to at least listen to dad's apology but can also see why he no longer wants anything to do with him. To be honest I'm sure that in time he may come round to at least tolerating my dad's presence. But how can I continue a normal relationship with my dad, and make him part of my baby's life, with such a big elephant in the room? I'm still sending baby pictures to him and replying to his messages but I'm struggling to muster any enthusiasm for staying in contact. Even the mention or thought of my dad makes me feel very down.

Who here is being unreasonable? Am I? Is my DH for not wanting any more to do with him? Or is my dad?

OP posts:
SaucyJack · 18/03/2016 14:32

I could refer you back to my earlier post at 12.00 sock, but I'm not that invested to sit here and go round in circles all bloody afternoon.

Best wishes to the OP for the future, and let's agree to disagree.

Aeroflotgirl · 18/03/2016 14:34

Op I just don't know, after your dad attacking your dh, he attacks his previous partner, this bringing to the surface painful childhood memories. Also they way he is towards your sister, I don't know why you would want this EA bully in your lives.

Aeroflotgirl · 18/03/2016 14:36

Has anyone ever made a mistake, looks like men are not allowed to on here. Op your dh sounds lovely, I hope he finds a job soon Smile.

Tabsicle · 18/03/2016 14:38

We also don't know anything about this family's finances. Last time my DP got made redundant I was working and we had a decent cushion of savings so he took a month off and then started looking. There is no great moral virtue in working as a cleaner. Of course if they can't pay the bills etc, then you take what you can get, but for all we know the OP could be on enhanced maternity pay or be planning on going back asap and want her DH to take on the brunt of the child rearing or almost anything. And those would be totally ok.

This is a thread that reads like 1974 never ended.

NameChange30 · 18/03/2016 14:40

He didn't even make a mistake! He did what the OP asked her to do. Only in AIBU is respecting your partner's wishes the crime of the century!

Branleuse · 18/03/2016 14:41

Your dad was being a total arse, and has history for being violent. I wouldnt have anything more to do with him

However your dh sounds like a bloody cocklodger. He didnt even insist on taking you to the hospital when your waters had broken because he was a bit unwell. Hes unemployed and has a crap attitude to money.

Good job youre independent because thats going to get very old very quickly when youve got an actual child to look after rather than a grown up one

NameChange30 · 18/03/2016 14:41

asked him to do

NameChange30 · 18/03/2016 14:41

Here we go again!

sparechange · 18/03/2016 14:42

saucy
Why is it so automatically suspicious that she didn't want him there during the early stages? She made a judgement call that it would be better to have him there at the latter, important stages and fully functioning all the way through.
You are implying she had a sixth sense he would do more harm than good which is absolutely not at all what she has said.

It is jaw dropping how many people are deliberately misrepresenting the OP, through omission or projection

NameChange30 · 18/03/2016 14:42

Don't think we'd had "cocklodger" yet - bingo! Grin

Aeroflotgirl · 18/03/2016 14:43

Branleuse Hmm Shock

Aeroflotgirl · 18/03/2016 14:43

Op is an independent adult, her dh respected her wishes ffs!!!!

IlikePercyPig · 18/03/2016 14:44

Another one who's being goady.

Aeroflotgirl · 18/03/2016 14:45

My Dh is the mai breadwinner I must be a cuntlodger Grin

Tabsicle · 18/03/2016 14:45

Branleuse - where on earth did you get that he has a crap attitude to money? I can't see anything like that.

Aeroflotgirl · 18/03/2016 14:49

Op dh looks like he is having a very hard time right now, kicking him when he is down is awful. So what if op dh is a stay at home dad, and op is the main earner, the sexism through this thread is shocking!

NameChange30 · 18/03/2016 14:49

Me too aeroflot, DH is the main breadwinner and I've been unemployed for months and months, so I am definitely a cuntlodger who is terrible with money and must go out and get a cleaning job right this second Grin

Aeroflotgirl · 18/03/2016 14:55

Oh yes we should shouldent we Emma Grin.

WeAllHaveWings · 18/03/2016 14:56

you have a good dh there, who walked away from a physical confrontation with your dad. You dad may look physically stronger, but at 60 years old that will be mostly the confidence and posturing of a bully.

How you move forward is your dh's decision and you/your family should not pressure him to have him back. Your dh has done nothing wrong but was physically threatened and humiliated in his own home. If one of my in-laws (or parents even) did that to me they would not be back. I rarely, almost never, forgive physically threatening.

If you want to continue a relationship with your dad you will need to meet him outside the home. If your dh is not happy with your dc having any relationship with him, or a strictly supervised one, you need to respect that too. Your dad needs to live with the consequences of his actions.

TheSinkingFeeling · 18/03/2016 15:06

Far too many posters projecting their own issues onto the OPs husband here

99percentchocolate · 18/03/2016 15:16

Your dad is abusive and manipulative. You really deserve better than what he is offering you. I would go NC personally because physical aggression is an absolute no-no in my household. Obviously it's your choice though.

For those who are slating the DH for not going to the hospital when unwell - did you think about the risk of infection to newborns? My DP was sent home when I had DD because he became unwell within an hour of my giving birth. They told me it was hospital policy due to the risk to the newborns, some of whom may have become very poorly if exposed. It was awful, but he had to go home. The OP's DP was actually being very sensible in my opinion. He had his phone nearby in case anything progressed and could have been there within 15 minutes. I really don't see an issue with it.
Had he sent her off in a cab in established labour whilst he went down the pub for a quick pint, then I'd have a problem with it. But he didn't. And the fact that two months later he struggles with this decision actually shows that he cared.

curren · 18/03/2016 15:17

Far too many posters projecting their own issues onto the OPs husband here

yup

Aeroflotgirl · 18/03/2016 15:18

99percent YYY

curren · 18/03/2016 15:23

If this was thread slagging people on benefits off, there would be hundreds of people posting that people don't choose do be made redundant.

And how people don't choose to not work and how awful it is to be looking for a job and not being able to get one.

If a sahm was saying that she felt bad because she couldn't find a job, people would be queuing up to tell her she has a job and of course her dh should support the family. Not calling her a cuntlodger

honeylulu · 18/03/2016 15:27

Your dad is U. Why is everyone enabling him including your mother who divorced him?
Your husband sounds ok and I wish him luck finding a job. It's a partly generational thing that a woman supporting a man is considered disgraceful. My parents look at me pityingly as I work part time and earn more than H. But it's my choice and I love my job! I can't help getting the impression that your husband might be a bit of a wet week though. I think he did the right thing not getting into a fight with your father, but why did he end up leaving his own home? My husband would have thrown him out on his ear.
I went to hospital in my own when my waters broke too. I thought I'd get sent home, that it was ages away, no point two of us staying up in the night getting no sleep. Just seemed logical. (My daughter was actually born 40 mins later in the assessment room! Husband just made it !)