Aibu to think people who rather a child stay in care than be adopted by gays

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Aibu to think people who would rather a child stay in foster care rather than be adopted by gays have real issues are there hatred of gays is more important than a child's well being

Following on from this idiot judge to was quite rightly removed for allowing his personal feeling on gay adoption rather than applying the law

Listing to the bbc London and so many people Felt a child was better off in care

As an adopter myself this is not a issue of gay vs straight couple it's a issue of gay vs a life in care with many moves

And tbh if straight parents were that fab the children wouldn't be in care all the children we fostered came from straight parents

I just wonder if these people could aculoy look a child in the face and say there is a gay couple who wants you but I think it best yu stay in care for your natrual born with a straight face

Also they don't factor in for some children who have been abused by say men two women would be ideal for that child ect

still want to know if bum sex is deviant

And unless that sexual deviancy involves paedophilia, beastiality or necrophilia, it has no bearing on whether said "deviants" are incapable of parenting a child

That's quite simplistic, one of my closest friends is a bit of a sexual deviant and the behaviours he indulges in would make him incapable of parenting a child with out exposing that child to the risk of serious harm,he also has little comprehension of the risks he takes so would be unlikely to change his behaviour if he was a parent.

As it happens he's also gay but that makes no difference to the matter. And I have little to no doubt that should he ever become a parent or responsible for a child then it would be incredibly easy to obtain a care order for the child and am very aware of a significant amount of straight mothers who have had children removed for the very same reasons.

Need

Deviancy is somewhat objective beyond the realms of illegality, which is what I listed. We could be here for hours discussing whether x sexual activity is or is not deviant.

I was simplistic because I wasn't intending to write an essay on the matter, I was rebuffing another posters homophobic opinions.

I accept YOU have that opinion - I don't have to accept it's right

I do have experience of gay adoption and fostering - as have other posters here - and they have told you that

I am very intelligent thank you :)

Maryz
She actually thinks she is right. There are many people in the world that would think she is right.
God forbid anyone is in the minority on Mumsnet then they get attacked.
She does not agree with 'the situation' in question. She gave her opinions. Like them or not and gets flamed. I dont like the deviant comment. I think that was wrong. But ffs let someone have their say without their comments being reported.

oh and you have had 3 posts deleted - not my opinion but a fact

and I am very definitely a bleeding heart liberal - and proud

Velvet,
If someone came on to mumsnet and said they thought black people should give up their seats on a bus for a white person because white people are the superior race would you defend their right to give that "opinion"??

EmbrioderyQueen Yes, my experience was a long time ago (1980's) and I have no experience of positive outcomes.
If the social norm was homosexual then of course I would feel that the child would be better off with a homosexual couple! I have no opinion that homosexuals cannot love the same as heterosexuals, or look after a child.
My concern is that a child may not cope psychologically with being placed in a homosexual family (as happened to my cousin) when they could have been placed with a heterosexual family and been accepted at school/clubs etc.

I am gong to bed now, goodnight everybody who is offended on behalf of people in situations they know nothing about!

Mary
You are supporting her to believe that her bigotry is ok, and that her opinion is valid. I can only believe you also hold those opinions - otherwise you would be as disgusted by them as everyone else is.

Agree completely.

it seems that if you do not agree with the bleeding-heart liberals on this forum then you are shunned because they are not intelligent enough to accept my opinion.

Nobody has to accept your opinion; it's only an opinion. Plus, it's bullshit.

ebony it's not the difference of opinion, it's how ignorant and offensive it is. It's exactly the same as saying 'it's just my opinion that a black teacher shouldn't be allowed to work at x school because their deviant skin colour might psychologically damage the children' 'Asians shouldn't be hcps incase their deviant ethnicity harms the patients' 'women attracted to much shorter men shouldn't be parents cos their sexual deviancy will be passed on to their dc'.

Just like the crap you're spouting, they aren't opinions, just ignorant bullshit.

I hope that the large majority of people reading this thread would disagree with Ebony's viewpoints, however I don't think she should be censored because she has not AFAI can tell deliberately tried to insult or hurt anyone.

I do however think the use of the word deviant was misguided as it's very likely to cause offence, so she should have phrased that differently, but I still don't think it was intended to insult.....

I think the censorship has been excessive, despite my disgust at the viewpoints expressed.

Well, that's MNHQ policy. It's what we've signed up for.

From Talk Guidelines:

We're all for freedom of speech. That said, we'll remove posts we consider to contain personal attacks, to break the law and/or to be obscene, racist, sexist, disablist, ageist, homophobic or transphobic, once they are brought to our attention.

EmbroideryQueen I have had no indication that my posts have been deleted.

Deviant...departing from the norm. Are you arguing that homosexuality is normal?

And again....please stop equating homosexuality with being black.

No way I buy the excuse anyone with access to the media and a job in mental health doesn't know referring to being gay as deviant isn't offensive.

My concern is that a child may not cope psychologically with being placed in a homosexual family

Care to explain why the 15 year old we're fostering refuses to take her social worker's offer to move to a family that happens to have heterosexual carers?

Or might she be suffering Stockholm syndrome?

Rdoo the censorship vs freedom of speech debate is always a tricky one. Basically, yes to freedom of speech, up to a point. But clearly no one ever agrees on where the line should be drawn.

Petition to stop Trump entering the UK for example? UKIP being permitted to stand in elections? All these fall either side of the line depending on who you talk to.

Rdoo
What a silly comment. This is about gays not colour