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Aibu to think people who rather a child stay in care than be adopted by gays

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Catvsworld · 13/03/2016 20:34

Aibu to think people who would rather a child stay in foster care rather than be adopted by gays have real issues are there hatred of gays is more important than a child's well being

Following on from this idiot judge to was quite rightly removed for allowing his personal feeling on gay adoption rather than applying the law

Listing to the bbc London and so many people Felt a child was better off in care

As an adopter myself this is not a issue of gay vs straight couple it's a issue of gay vs a life in care with many moves

And tbh if straight parents were that fab the children wouldn't be in care all the children we fostered came from straight parents

I just wonder if these people could aculoy look a child in the face and say there is a gay couple who wants you but I think it best yu stay in care for your natrual born Shock with a straight face

Also they don't factor in for some children who have been abused by say men two women would be ideal for that child ect

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ghostyslovesheep · 13/03/2016 23:17

Ebony here is a good debate question for you - posed by another poster and roundly ignored by yourself (unless you covered it in one of your many offensive and deleted posts) - when people argue that black and white people marrying and having kids is deviant and against nature - how do you feel?

VelvetCushion · 13/03/2016 23:17

BIWI
You are going to report this post Shock

Maryz · 13/03/2016 23:18

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Message withdrawn at poster's request.

ghostyslovesheep · 13/03/2016 23:18

another one - if people can not conceive naturally should they be allowed to adopt?

VelvetCushion · 13/03/2016 23:19

Ebony
I dont agree with you 100% on your views but i think you have been treated badly on here.
Most if MNers do not have the intelligence to debate. Its a shame they have,to attack.

EbonyDanny · 13/03/2016 23:19

I can't see if I have had a post deleted! I'm sure I would have had a notification if I had.

I AM NOT AGAINST HOMOSEXUALITY!!!

I AM AGAINST HOMOSEXUALS ADOPTING CHILDREN!

Get over it you bunch of vile people.

IceBeing · 13/03/2016 23:20

ebony the problem here is exactly as you say a lack of ability to debate.

You have said you believe homosexuality to be unnatural - you do not appear to have any answer to the fact that it is provably natural as it occurs across the animal kingdom.

You have said you believe it impossible for homosexuals to procreate. Again you have no answer to the fact that in both human and animal cases this is untrue. Procreation happens alongside homosexuality.

You have said you don't think homosexual parents can provide a suitable environment for bringing up a child - you don't appear to have an answer to the fact that homosexual parents are very successfully bringing up children.

You want to debate? Then do so. What are your answers to any or all of the above counter arguments?

Alisvolatpropiis · 13/03/2016 23:20
Hmm
GibbousHologram · 13/03/2016 23:20

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EbonyDanny · 13/03/2016 23:20

Again, please don't equate race with homosexuality.

ghostyslovesheep · 13/03/2016 23:21

why not - neither are things people have control over Hmm

Maryz · 13/03/2016 23:22

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Rdoo · 13/03/2016 23:22

I don't know who is worse, Ebony or her/his apologists.

IceBeing · 13/03/2016 23:22

ebony for information you have had 3 posts deleted to date.

dazedandconfused17 · 13/03/2016 23:23

Ebony - why not? Both race and homosexuality are traits that people are born with that have lead to their being discriminated in the past on dubious scientific grounds.

Why should they not be compared?

TheSinkingFeeling · 13/03/2016 23:23

can't see if I have had a post deleted! I'm sure I would have had a notification if I had.

FYI

Aibu to think people who rather a child stay in care than be adopted by gays
ghostyslovesheep · 13/03/2016 23:24

Velvet we where having a very interesting debate - derailed by now deleted posts - no one has been OTT - people have challenged the homophobia and given examples and evidence to counteract those views - which is debating is it not

I'm baffled as to why you feel the need to keep sucking your teeth and apologising to the poster who's views break talk guidelines they are so vile

VelvetCushion · 13/03/2016 23:25

Maryz
What do you mean im on the wrong side

IceBeing · 13/03/2016 23:26

dazed there is a difference though, race could be thought of as being 100% genetically determined. Homosexuality is the usual 60% nature, 40% nurture split.

It isn't that people have any choice in their sexual orientation as such, but it isn't determined 100% by genetics as race is.

VelvetCushion · 13/03/2016 23:27

Ghosty
What do you mean apologising to the poster?

Maryz · 13/03/2016 23:27

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UmbongoUnchained · 13/03/2016 23:29

I do not think a white couple should be able to adopt a black child if the couple in question live in a white neighbourhood. And vice versa. We have totally different cultures

Really? What about me as a Japanese baby, adopted by a black family and raised in a very Indian area of London?

EmbroideryQueen · 13/03/2016 23:29

Ebony

I wholeheartedly disagree with all of your views (and find them VERY unpalatable), however I don't think holding a minority viewpoint warrants you being called stupid / unintelligent. I also don't think you sound especially ignorant on the subject, given your family history, however I do wonder if you have any first hand experience of positive outcomes of same sex and mixed race adoption? And if a lack of direct experience of positive outcomes could have coloured your views somewhat?

I'm afraid I do find your views bigoted, however I also think it's too common to dismiss people with minority viewpoints as stupid, crazy, or to censor them (except in rare cases when it probably is necessary still traumatised by UKIP and Trump)

I'm glad you've taken the time to explain why you hold the view you do, which I guess I could summarise as worries over children integrating into society if they are brought up with alternative viewpoints??? Is that correct? (You mentioned not agreeing with mixed parent / child race adoptions?)

If my interpretation of your views is correct, how would you feel about a hypothetical scenario of a child being adopted by gay parents who lived in a community where the majority of parents were gay? Would straight adopters be regarded as 'deviant' in this scenario, and therefore gay adoptive parents would be preferable?? Or same scenario but with mixed parent child race adoptions being the norm?

Also, you mentioned "homosexual promiscuous behaviour as a contributing factor to them being removed from their mother". I assume this was either a very long time ago or not in the UK?

ghostyslovesheep · 13/03/2016 23:30

Well for starters Velvet you basically said those disagreeing with homophobia 'lacked intelligence' and didn't know how to debate Hmm

which was nice

EbonyDanny · 13/03/2016 23:31

I really can't believe I have had posts deleted.
I have not been aggressive or rude in my posting.
I have expressed an opinion that is unpopular.
I have experience in adoption into/from homosexual families...HAVE YOU??

It seems that if you do not agree with the bleeding-heart liberals on this forum then you are shunned because they are not intelligent enough to accept my opinion.