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Can't believe what Sky News reporter just said re child sex abuse victim of Adam Johnson

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ofuckit · 02/03/2016 23:01

Did anybody else see this? I'm horrified and a bit disturbed tbh.

The reporter was talking to an ex footballer about the case and said 'Do you think it's hard for people to understand how hard it is to deal with the temptations put in the way of footballers'.... 😟
The ex footballer responded in agreement with the reporter, saying how oh yes it's very hard for them, etc....

So we can assume from this that these men see children as 'temptations put in their way'?

i feel sick 😞

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MetalMidget · 03/03/2016 11:40

"He hasn't shown any paedo traits that I can see"

Apart from knowingly grooming an underage girl.

Jimmy Savile raped and assaulted his way through women, teenagers and children, but from all accounts started with teenage girls (much like thelostprophets singer who also started on teenage girls before turning his attention to babies and toddlers. Obviously not every perv who targets underage teens will go younger, but it certainly suggests he's not quite right in his appetites.

MorrisZapp · 03/03/2016 11:40

The age of consent is necessary in law but in many ways makes no sense.

It basically states that on the stroke of midnight the day before their sixteenth birthdays, children become adults.

Phalenopsisgirl · 03/03/2016 11:42

Hmmm at 15 I was predatory, and would have know exactly what I was doing. I know many people were not and so find it incredible that this is being pointed out. No he shouldn't have even gone there but I very much doubt this girl is 100% victim.

chibsortig · 03/03/2016 11:42

Reduce the age of consent to 14?? Are you fucking joking?
Would any parent be happy knowing their 14 year old children were legally having sex with adults well over the age of consent?

MorrisZapp · 03/03/2016 11:44

Sorry but I don't agree with that theory. By all means express anger and disgust at this man for what he's done, but even hinting at him being a suspect for Saville or Watkins type crimes against children is pretty low in my view. Stick to what he's actually done.

ComeonSummer1 · 03/03/2016 11:44

It's disgusting op you are right.

Radio 5 referred to her as a child and report responsibly. Sky not so much.

I am so so pleased this bastard was prosecuted. Under age is under age. If they had been both 15 it's different.

He's an adult. In a position of power.

If there is any good coming out of her beast Saville it's the fact that the police and CPS are taking the age of consent seriously.

Hope he gets 10 years and good on the judge.

chibsortig · 03/03/2016 11:45

Of course the girl is the victim she is 15 years old he is 28 and he groomed her then assaulted her.

Why do people think this is acceptable? If it were their child is it still acceptable? Bonkers some of you are!

makingmiracles · 03/03/2016 11:47

Torn with this one a bit to be honest, what was the girl thinking? Where were her parents whilst it was all going on?

He of course is totally in the wrong for what he did but I do feel we need to educate young teen girls to try and minimise these things happening.

I'm sorry but at 15 you are not a kid, you are coming very close to adulthood and I would question why young girls think it's ok to get close to/make friendships with adult men, we need to educate them and tell them it is not ok to pursue men that are over 16 when they themselves are not.

ComeonSummer1 · 03/03/2016 11:48

Phalenopsisgirl

That's not the point. Children run In front of cars but you don't deliberately run them over!

Adults are adults and as such should be able to exercise restraint.

My lads are 20s and would run a mile from a 'predatory ' under age girl. They would protect the child.

Don't peddle bollocksike that.

wheelofapps · 03/03/2016 11:50

Is Child Sex Offender better then??? Confused

If it looks like a Duck and walks like a Duck and quacks like a Duck...

TheCokeMachine · 03/03/2016 11:51

The only person at fault here is the man in question, he lied to the public, his girlfriend, his employer and the police. The girl was vilified and dragged through the courts due to his lies.

I hope she can find some peace now that her story has been believed.

And yes, he is a peadophile, he KNEW she was legally a child (not that grey area when a 15 year old doesn't disclose her real age) and he was an adult, he broke the law and he knew it.

FatimaLovesBread · 03/03/2016 11:51

Can I just ask about the charges, one was found guilty and one not guilty, both Sexual activity with a child. Do we know what each one refers to?

The two that he pleaded guilty to, were they grooming and one count of Sexual activity with a child which relates to them snogging?

Was one of the further counts the blow job?

ComeonSummer1 · 03/03/2016 11:53

making

Yes the child was a Lolita that's right. That's how Rotherham happened.

Please change your mindset and hopefully you don't peddle this attitude to your sons and daughters.

makingmiracles · 03/03/2016 11:57

Lolita, is that even a word?

I'll be teaching my sons and daughter not to go anywhere near someone when they themselves are under 16.

PalmerViolet · 03/03/2016 11:57

Making... perhaps if you bothered to read the news reports you would know that she was a few days after her 14th birthday when he started grooming her, and that the sexual suggestions all came from him.

Yes, we do need to educate our children about what grooming looks like. Maybe we could use his texts to her, because they are text book.

makingmiracles · 03/03/2016 12:00

They do need educating. Too many teen girls especially like to pursue overage men/boys and they should be taught in sex ed or whatever that it is not ok and can land them in dangerous situations and being dragged through court just like this victim.
I already said in my last post he was in the wrong, but she is a tiny bit responsible too imo at 15.

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ofuckit · 03/03/2016 12:03

Torn with this one a bit to be honest, what was the girl thinking? Where were her parents whilst it was all going on?

No idea, don't know her or her parents. Doesn't change the fact that she is legally a child and an adult man groomed and abused her, does it? Or is it the girl & her parents fault for 'putting temptation in his way'? Hmm

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ouryve · 03/03/2016 12:03

Well he has been hit in the pocket, as he's been dropped by a premier league football club. AND he's going to prison. The way it should be.

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ofuckit · 03/03/2016 12:04

But making don't you see that as a child, a 15 year old cannot give consent and therefore cannot be deemed responsible. She is a victim.

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Phalenopsisgirl · 03/03/2016 12:06

It's not acceptable. He shouldn't have done it.

Some men (and women) are not mature well into their 20's and even 30's and are just as able to be manipulated and groomed as a teenager is. Ime, some men are very easy to manipulate, at 15, when you've always been treated as a child, the sense of power this gives is huge and a very addictive rush. At 15 I looked like a woman in her 20's. I could carry myself like a woman in her 20's. For me I thought my new found ability to use my sexuality to out manoeuvre older men fantastic, I could control men twice my age. Really, they were my victims, just not in the eyes of the law. My behaviour was unacceptable, immature and horrid. I am not proud of behaving so badly, with adult eyes I can see my games for what they were, the child in me then was cold and calculating and I had no thoughts of consequence. The men I targeted were not blameless but were definitely not responsible either. She probably experienced the same feelings I did, but she was just less able to handle the situation she brought about for herself. People who are not condemning either party 100% have probably also experienced similar scenarios, the complexities of which are almost impossible to see or comprehend from an outside perspective.

makingmiracles · 03/03/2016 12:08

Hit the nail on the head there Phal

DSClarke · 03/03/2016 12:11

Right, who wants to explain Lolita?

makingmiracles · 03/03/2016 12:14

Right so it's a book about a 12 yr old that was abused, how is that relevant in this particular discussion?

aginghippy · 03/03/2016 12:14

we need to educate young teen girls to try and minimise these things happening Hmm

We need to educate adult men so they don't abuse girls. That's partly what prison sentences are for, to act as deterrents.

MorrisZapp · 03/03/2016 12:15

He isn't a paedophile.