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Can't believe what Sky News reporter just said re child sex abuse victim of Adam Johnson

405 replies

ofuckit · 02/03/2016 23:01

Did anybody else see this? I'm horrified and a bit disturbed tbh.

The reporter was talking to an ex footballer about the case and said 'Do you think it's hard for people to understand how hard it is to deal with the temptations put in the way of footballers'.... 😟
The ex footballer responded in agreement with the reporter, saying how oh yes it's very hard for them, etc....

So we can assume from this that these men see children as 'temptations put in their way'?

i feel sick 😞

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ofuckit · 03/03/2016 10:45

Sorry x-posted with a couple of you...

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BarbarianMum · 03/03/2016 10:45

I honestly don't see what is going to be achieved by putting him in prison for 10 years?

Justice for one child?

ofuckit · 03/03/2016 10:47

The Rapist Ched Evans

I just hope that remains his official 'title' for good.

I may just start to use the title 'Child Sex Offender Adam Johnson' from now on. His name alone just doesn't do him justice.

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DownstairsMixUp · 03/03/2016 10:47

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ofuckit · 03/03/2016 10:49

I honestly don't see what is going to be achieved by putting him in prison for 10 years?

I agree. I think he should go to prison for 10 years and he should have a ££££££ fine befitting to his fucking enormous wealth.

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tictactoad · 03/03/2016 10:52

The Child Abuser Adam Johnson has a £2M mansion and was allowed to carry on playing for nine months (nine months!) after his club was aware of the then allegations netting him around another £2M in salary.

I think it's fair to say he won't be leaving jail on his uppers but I would also be very interested in why his club thought it appropriate for him to carry on appearing.

The whole thing stinks.

LaPharisienne · 03/03/2016 10:55

TwinMummy forget about the girl - think about Adam Johnson.

What kind of 28 year old man puts his hand down the knickers of a 15 year old? Having been involved in similar trials in a professional capacity I can tell you - a man who gets a kick out of taking advantage of little girls. Men like him are often outwardly charming and good looking and once the facts come out in court about what they have been up to, it is very disconcerting and upsetting. And very, very clear that these men set out to find vulnerable young girls they can take advantage of. It is conscious, wrong and abusive and he is a threat to other young girls. He should be in prison.

IShouldBeSoLurky · 03/03/2016 10:56

I just went on to Twitter to see if I could find any mention of this and the top trending searches were "Adam Johnson victim real name" and "Adam Johnson victim picture". WTAF is wrong with people?

tictactoad · 03/03/2016 10:58

Twinmummy

I am old enough to remember the massive public backlash against Wyman. He got away clear because Mandy and her appalling mother didn't press charges.

ofuckit · 03/03/2016 10:59

I think some people can also struggle precisely with the fact that a man like the Child Sex Offender Adam Johnson is perceived as young and good looking. There's a belief (among some) that to be a paedo you must be old and wierd looking - but clearly that's not the case and never has been.

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ExitPursuedByABear · 03/03/2016 11:08

Didn't he have a partner and a young baby as well?

Cerseirys · 03/03/2016 11:11

Yes he did, but unlike Ched Evans' girlfriend she has dumped him.

DSClarke · 03/03/2016 11:13

I hate the Sun with a passion, but I have to applaud the sub who came up with it's front page headline next to a picture of Johnson in swimming trunks:

'Paedo in his Speedos'

wheelofapps · 03/03/2016 11:15

TwinMummy

Johnson's Victim was 'just turned 15' - a child.

My best friend was raped by her Uncle 11 days before she turned 16. A child.
The Police wanted to know 'if she was a virgin'.
Her character (absolutely outstanding, btw) got muddied (mostly because her own Mother decided to protect her brother and not her daughter) and the Police decided not to take it to Court (look up the stats for rape victims, and CA survivors, why don't you?)
The Uncle now takes frequent holidays to Thailand.

Would it have been 'okay' in your book if it had been 12 days later and she was actually 16 that day? Perhaps she 'knew what she was doing'?

Horrible horrible post.

Hygge · 03/03/2016 11:16

TwinMummy you are being ridiculous.

Attitudes like yours are the reason sex offenders like Adam Johnson think they can justify what they do.

She's fifteen and knows what she's doing, so that's okay. She's almost legal age, so that's okay. She was a fan and must have wanted it, so that's okay. She contacted him, so that's okay. She's full of hormones, so that's okay. She got in his car, so that's okay.

It's not okay.

She is a child. Some people seem to believe that children in their mid-teens are not as vulnerable as younger children. They believe that these children aren't as damaged as younger children when they come into contact with an abuser.

That's wrong. They are children. They might be exploring new emotions, feeling hormonal, and testing boundaries, but that doesn't make them "not innocent" when a child abuser like Adam Johnson takes advantage of their age and inexperience to abuse them and then blames them for it.

Try reading about what came out in court Guardian Link Here

She was a young girl who idolised this man, but that doesn't mean she wanted to kiss him, have him touch her, or perform any sort of sex acts with him or for him.

She had his name on her football shirt, wanted her photograph taken with him, had him on her birthday cake even. She sent him a friend request on Facebook even.

The sort of stuff that children do when they admire someone. At worst she had a childish crush. It doesn't mean she actually wanted any of the sexual things that followed at his instigation.

But he was the one who recognised her as the young girl outside the stadium, who asked her for her for her number, who made efforts to find out her age, and how close to sixteen she might be, and ignored the fact that she had only just turned fifteen, and sent her hundreds of messages to groom her for sex.

He is the one who has admitted that he gave her his mobile number because he wanted "sexual activity" with her.

"Giving evidence, Johnson claimed that she was the first fan he had ever given his mobile number to and that he did it because he wanted sexual activity with her. Within an hour, he had asked her age. “Year 10,” she replied. “Will you still send me a signed shirt?”

As the conversation went on, he asked: “Where do you go out?” She replied: “I’m not old enough to go out.” He said: “Yeah but you look old enough. When [are] you 16?” When she replied that her birthday was months away, Johnson said: “Ages, then lol.”"

He then arranged to meet her, under the pretext of giving her a signed football shirt. And once that meeting took place, he was the one who deliberately tried to make her feel obligated to give him a sexual favour in return for the gift.

According to the news reports he has admitted that in court. He gave her a gift to make her feel she owed him sex.

"Days later, Johnson messaged her, saying: “Thought I would’ve got a thank you kiss for the shirt.” He admitted under cross-examination that he wanted her to think she owed him a “sexual favour”."

He was the one who, according to the evidence in court, turned the conversations they had by text to sexual conversations every single time.

"Reading more like flirty texts between two teenagers, Johnson was always the one steering the conversation towards sex. It was, Blackwell told the jury, “grooming in its purest form”."

She does not, to me, sound like she was able to deal with this. She might have responded to his sexual messages at the time, but she sounds well out of her depth to me.

A man she admired and may have had a crush on was paying her attention, being nice to her, giving her presents, and then by his own admission was making her feel obligated to give him sexual favours in return. She was out of her depth, confused, and despite what you claim she wasn't trying to get herself out of trouble.

She lied to try to protect him, and she was frightened she wouldn't be believed if she told the truth. She was bullied at school and on-line, within just days of his arrest. Grown men chanted songs about her on the football terraces of the team she supported. They supported him and vilified her. Some fuckwit reporter has described her as a "temptation" and people like you assume she knew what she was doing and wasn't as innocent as she claimed.

You are wrong and you are dangerous. Because your attitude supports abusers like Adam Johnson even as you criticise him, because you are making justifications based on her age and any perceived behaviour that may have occurred because of it.

Because you are denying that she, at fifteen, is not a child, not young enough to be a 'real' or 'entirely innocent' victim of him and his abuse.

You are wrong.

RubyRoseViolet · 03/03/2016 11:19

Just turned 15? Ugh. Poor kid, it's so horrible. I feel so much for her and her family.

wheelofapps · 03/03/2016 11:22

Hygge:
"You are wrong and you are dangerous. Because your attitude supports abusers like Adam Johnson even as you criticise him, because you are making justifications based on her age and any perceived behaviour that may have occurred because of it.

Because you are denying that she, at fifteen, is not a child, not young enough to be a 'real' or 'entirely innocent' victim of him and his abuse.

You are wrong".

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks
That almost 16 year old would cry if she read your post.

ArgelianArgelian · 03/03/2016 11:23

Hygge brilliant post!

MorrisZapp · 03/03/2016 11:28

Can we not call this guy a paedo please? He's a lot of vile things but he doesn't fancy little kids.

I was happily sexual active at 15. I also had a job and bought my own clothes etc. I understand why the law needs to protect underage girls from adult groomers and abusers like Adams, but it isn't paedophilia and to name it that is completely undermining the meaning of that word.

ofuckit · 03/03/2016 11:30

Morris actually how do we know what age child would be too young to fancy for Child Sex Offender Adam Johnson?

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MorrisZapp · 03/03/2016 11:35

He hasn't shown any paedo traits that I can see. He's been charged with this particular offence which in my view has nothing whatsoever to do with paedophilia.

DeoGratias · 03/03/2016 11:36

The country splits on this issue. I would reduce the age of consent to sex down to 14 to be honest and I think it really really damages us when we deem people having sex with mature 15 year old girls is like men raping 4 year olds. They are very different offences.

BornToFolk · 03/03/2016 11:36

Hygge Great post.
I was heartened that on the BBC news last night she was referred to as "the child" throughout the reporting. Because she is. Legally, emotionally, morally just a child which is why we have laws in place protecting children from people who would take advantage of them.

SamanthaBrique · 03/03/2016 11:38

Oh FFS Xenia...

BarbarianMum · 03/03/2016 11:39