To have taken toddler in quiet carriage

[MamaAwayOnBusiness]

Took my DS(2) to London this weekend and after habit (I usually travel this line for work) booked the quiet coach. I deliberately chose his nap time for the journey and he did sleep all the way. But I see another thread now people advising OP to book quiet coach if she wanted to avoid kids and I realise I might have made a commuter faux pas had my boy not been asleep. I wouldn't have been able to move with a pushchair, two bags and the whole shebang. I thought quiet coach meant no phones, no music and no loud conversation, a usual 2yo heckling about seeing trains, cows and boats would have been ok. WIBU?

Oh good grief, I like peace in the quiet coach but I don't expect miracles from parents. You can't have the table seat which I booked, and I expect you not to allow anything which beeps or goes kerpow or makes a tinny noise. And turn all phones O-F-F off, not on silent.

But of course your child will talk and it's silly to expect otherwise.

In that case then fog how come the posts as to why people can't follow the rules?

Sorry NeedsaSock I genuinely don't understand your question.

There are specific requirements for travelling in the Quiet Coach - someone posted the ToC's guidance upthread. They don't mention children, and I haven't said in my posts 'No children.'

I just ask that any and all passengers in the Quiet Coach follow the simple guidance about travelling in that part of the train, and that those of us who have deliberately chosen to travel because we want the quiet are respected and not mocked.

2Rebecca every quiet coach I've been in has expressly banned mobiles. It may be a short call but if 10 people in a carriage do it, it's very annoying, so don't be one of those 10. We coped for over a century meeting people off trains without mobiles. Just organise things before you go or sit in another carriage.

Why don't people who want absolute quiet just stick in wax earplugs? Wouldn't that make the quiet carriage even quieter?

I don't want or expect silence and I like to hear train announcements. I would like people to stick to the very basic rules: no loud conversations, mobile phones, music or bleeping electronics. Over the last few years though I've found people can't even manage that.

Yes, Gabilan it's not much to ask, is it.

I just ask that any and all passengers in the Quiet Coach follow the simple guidance about travelling in that part of the train, and that those of us who have deliberately chosen to travel because we want the quiet are respected and not mocked

Because nobody on this thread at all is mocking anybody who wants the actual published rules to be followed.

Everybody (unless I have missed a post) has made a point of saying its a quiet coach and a huge amount of people have made of point of reiterating those rules.

Yet you appear to be talking about posters who are challenging how acceptable these rules are.

I didn't read it like that NeedsaSock

I wonder which thread you have been reading then, seeing as this thread is explicitly, as per the title, about a parent travelling with a child in the quiet coach, and the vast majority of the 159 posts on it have been telling the OP that she shouldn't have.

Yes, YABU.

On the quiet coach, all noise should be kept to a minimum. A talking child is just as distracting as someone talking on the phone.

But the child wasn't talking. It was sleeping...

Where have I ever said that I answer my mobile in the quiet carriage? Read my fecking posts properly. I've said BRIEF phone calls by OTHER PEOPLE don't bother ME, OK they bother you but they still don't bother me.
I did complain last time I was travelling Scotland to Edinburgh to a group of 4 who got on and talked nonstop (well one elderly woman in the party did, not sure the others could get a word in. After 20 min I'd had enough. I find that far more disruptive than someone talking for a minute on the phone.
I tend to just text if arranging stuff.
A sleeping baby is fine, the problem comes when the baby or toddler wakes up and goes into constant wittering mode and the parent can't be bothered to move.

Scotland to London that should be

Anyway, unless a child is shouting or crying then surely that's a normal conversational level?

Yes, sure. The point though is that it's not easy to keep a child to a quiet level.

I must be really hard of thinking, because nowhere in all of that does it say that children are not allowed in the quiet coach.

Yes, I guess you must. Common sense dictates that it's not a good idea to take children in the quiet coach, because of the above issue.

2rebecca, how do you figure that 'Answering your phone is fine' when quiet coaches are plastered with stickers saying 'No mobiles'? And 'I disagree with people who say answering your phone at all is unreasonable in the quiet carriage.' It doesn't matter if it's reasonable or not; it's NOT ALLOWED. Is that very hard for you to comprehend? Genuine question.