to be depressed that only 9% of women identify as feminists?

[parklyfe]

www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/only-7-per-cent-of-britons-consider-themselves-feminists/

''When split out by gender, women were more likely to identify as feminist, with nine per cent using the label compared to four per cent of men.''

Totally agree with Owllady

Ett

It isn't. 'Equality' means hugely different things to different people, hence why self-proclaimed feminists will argue passionately amongst themselves.

Feminism means you believe women should have the same social, political, legal, and economic rights as men.

A good example is the ''blog of the day'' you can see on the right side of this thread : ''How to dress your son as Elsa from Frozen''.

Yep find people associating with causes fucking boring.

Yeah, that Martin Luther King was a boring fucker. And don't get me started about that extreme badgering peace-lover Gandhi.

If they asked 'do you think men and women are/should be equal' or similar, hopefully the vast majority would say yes.
The word 'feminist' still conjures up the stereotypical and inaccurate image of militant, angry, bra-burning, men-hating women, sadly.

I am an equalitarist. I do not like quotas, stupid fights against words, and extremism.

I sure am however going to fight to ensure that I get the same opportunities at work or in life, that my successors will too, and that our rights are never compromised to appease another community. I am not a minority, I am one half of humanity, in every country, in every part of the world. I am entitled to the same safety, challenges, success and difficulties as men. My fellow man is not a monster, not automatically an oppressor, I just need to remind him if necessary that I am his equal.

Someone else may call me a feminist, I don't identify as one as I am far too ignorant on the subject. My daughter speaks of waves of feminists etc. I have a lot to learn.

That's a bad example for me OP. My DSes would never want to be dressed as Elsa from Frozen. They just wouldnt. Therefore another aspect of feminism that doesn't apply to me.

While I hate to pander to the forces which have made this so...I have to say that it is the title of Feminist that's put women off identifying as one. It's because of all those unflattering portraits such as Milli Tant and the cartoons of raging, ugly women.

So yes...those people who lambasted Feminism won something.

I don't see that as a good example park.
Why would you need to dress your son as Elsa to prove a point?

That blog is not an example of Feminism. It's an example of a parent supporting her son in being what he wants to be.

What's an 'extreme feminist'? Can anyone give an example of something an 'extreme' feminist would say or do?

I was just coming on to say that at least no-one has described themselves as an 'equalist', 'equalitist or even 'equalitarist' (new one on me) but nope, too late. Coz heaven knows feminism has nothing to do with equality

Why do parents need a 'how to' guide to popping a dress on their son?

lotta those that shout you down because you don't have their beliefs of feminism. It happens. A lot.

She's not making her son dress like Elsa, she's just not stopping him from doing so. This way people can be educated that gender is delusional and people shouldn't be forced to conform to make belief patriarchal stereotypes.

People are free to describe themselves as whatever they want to Lottapianos.

Why do those terms bother you?

Any examples PaulAnka? Is it shouting down or is it just robust debate?

worraliberty I just thought the same thing - surely you just pop to Tesco/ Asda/Sainsburys like the rest of us eejits and part with your £15. Pop a vest on underneath it so it doesn't get "scritchy" and there you go - am I doing it wrong?

It's shouting down on the feminist board, because most posters just echo each other.

Extreme feminist: www.fstdt.com/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=71770

www.fstdt.com/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=88952

i dont identify as a feminist

but i believe in equality in all aspects of life and i believe that women have the right to control their own body.

for too many people, feminist conjures images of hairy, ugly, bra burning, man hating lesbians. like muslims and isis. the extremists hog the limelight- it a pr issue

Well here we go. I explain why some people aren't comfortable with 'identifying' as feminist and someone jumps on it and demands an explanation, all in the name of feminism.

Boys have been wearing Princess dresses from the dressing up box since the year dot.

Why does it need a 'blogger' to tell everyone she's not stopping her son from doing exactly the same?

I really think the whole dress thing was a poor example too.