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AIBU?

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to think it is cruel to pick on a man for this

167 replies

alpacaonfire · 18/02/2016 21:57

There is a young guy on our office relatively recently joined. Although he's early ish 20s he is significantly bald. My female manager early 30s is forever commenting on it, sometimes on front of him sometimes not. He smiles and laughs along but I sense he is actually quite hurt by the things she says and embarrassed about his baldness and relative youth. AIBU?

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BillSykesDog · 18/02/2016 21:57

YANBU, horrible and unprofessional.

timelytess · 18/02/2016 21:59

Bullying and unacceptable.
Isn't it excess of testosterone that causes baldness? So not a bad thing in a man.

CocktailQueen · 18/02/2016 21:59

No. She is bullying him and being a bitch. How would she like it if he commented on her buck teeth or spots or hair or weight? FDA. He can't help it.

Talk to her about it - or at least stick up for him when she mentions it again. Or talk to hr?

Trills · 18/02/2016 22:00

Rude and unpleasant and unprofessional.

Kr1stina · 18/02/2016 22:00

Of course not. It's bullying

VelvetSpoon · 18/02/2016 22:06

Horrible.
I dated a guy once who was losing his hair (mid 30s) and he was very conscious of it, used thickening shampoos etc. He had a huge fear of going completely bald, that people were looking at his lack of hair etc. I know he'd have been destroyed to hear someone mocking him like you ref manager is doing.

Is there a way of flagging it to HR for them to speak to her?

thebiscuitindustry · 18/02/2016 22:06

YANBU. It's unprofessional and unkind. How would your manager feel if someone kept commenting on some aspect of her appearance?

sooperdooper · 18/02/2016 22:11

Totally out of order, I'd have a word with her about it in private

Salmotrutta · 18/02/2016 22:17

Anyone who comments on aspects of other people's appearance/passes remarks is an ignorant lout.

Manager or not.

And yes, it's bullying and undermining. Poor chap is probably very humiliated by this.

And your manager sounds like one of those horrors who was never taught manners or how to behave towards others.

alpacaonfire · 18/02/2016 22:17

Ok thought as much. I don't want to speak to him directly about it as I think it would embarass him further. IMO we women don't fully understand how this makes esp young men feel self conscious

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WitchWay · 18/02/2016 22:18

Awful behaviour - completely wrong to pick on anyone because of a physical characteristic.

I was bullied at school because I wore glasses, which was unusual then. Horrible time.

AnyFucker · 18/02/2016 22:19

That is vile. Somebody needs to pull her up on it.

Salmotrutta · 18/02/2016 22:19

"We women" just need to imagine how we'd like it if someone else was making comments about any aspect of our appearance!

ilovesooty · 18/02/2016 22:24

Speak to her about it or refer the situation to HR. It's appalling behaviour.

VinceNoirLovesHowardMoon · 18/02/2016 22:34

Can you speak to someone above her? I had to talk to my manager about a female colleague who wolf whistled and made personal comments to a younger male colleague when he was wearing cut off trousers. Just because it's female to male doesn't make it acceptable.

ImperialBlether · 18/02/2016 22:35

It's bullying. What does she think she's doing? I would go upwards with this if there is someone to talk to. If she's the top person, I would just say something like, "I'd really hate it if someone said that about me" every time she says it.

velourvoyageur · 18/02/2016 22:35

Has she got no social skills whatsoever!
So cruel and she must know she's being horrible? So he's early 20s - I'm early 20s and to be honest most of the people in my age bracket are not that confident. Everyone knows this. Most people haven't quite found their feet yet, let alone a stable sense of self, and then to think that you're also aging faster than the rest of your peers....
I've been scared of hair loss in the past and no one commented on it - if they'd been anything other than reassuring and comforting (which was the only reaction I got) I'd have been feeling ten times worse.

Balding isn't unattractive in a man, but I know how it feels to think your look is changing when you don't want it to. I would hate to lose my hair & I'm sure your manager would too so she must be totally aware of what she's doing. I'd probably do a half-jokey 'yeah ok I think we know your feelings on the subject by now X!' thing next time she does it. Let her know you've noticed it and you're not impressed. Raised eyebrows and awkward silences.
How weird though! you sound nice though, carry on keeping on eye out for your colleagues :)

Seeyounearertime · 18/02/2016 22:38

As a man who is losing his flowing locks I can tell you he may be laughing long but he's dying inside.

Mind you, I bruted it out and took charge of my baldness by shaving it with a razor all over. Smooth as pool ball. Grin

Iliveinalighthousewiththeghost · 18/02/2016 22:38

Bang out of order. Cause for greivence. I'd say.

ABetaDad1 · 18/02/2016 22:39

Somebody should gave a word with her bt couch it as follows:

"I think X might be a bit embarrassed and upset about the hair jokes. I think we ought to cool it a bit"

Just keep it low key and unconfrontational. Sometimes people don't realise a joke is actually bullying.

SnuffleGruntSnorter · 18/02/2016 22:39

It's definitely out of order. I'm married to a bald man who is happy that it suits him far more than his unruly curly hair did. It still pisses me off whenever people make jokes about it even if he doesn't mind because it's not ok to make jokes about people's physical appearance.

IJustLostTheGame · 18/02/2016 22:39

Wow.
I'd rather be bald than a bitch.
I would say something to her. Maybe not in his hearing but I would defiantly say something. That is hurtful. And bullying. And it doesn't contribute to a friendly working atmosphere.

GloGirl · 18/02/2016 22:39

If he's too embarrassed to put a complaint in personally could you not put one in for him? He'd probably be really happy for them to stop and he'd never know.

FinallyFreeFromItAll · 18/02/2016 22:43

I would put in a complaint to HR - you don't need to be the person being bullied to make a complaint and for it to be taken seriously.

I feel really sorry for him. My brother has problems with his hair (lost it during cancer treatment and its only ever come back really sparse on top, although normal on the sides). He is extremely self conscious about it and if anyone said anything about him starting to bald, it would devestate him. Its awful.

BeeppityBeep · 18/02/2016 22:44

I'd tell her to stop in no uncertain terms. I wouldn't be rude but I'd be clear that it's not acceptable to comment on other peoples looks.

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