to thibk there's a lot of mansplaining going on at the moment?

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On mn I mean. Just something I seem to be spotting more and more.
happy to be told I'm wrong in words of one syllable

I've told you a million times not to exaggerate.

Shrill? Lord, you are reading words on a screen, unless you are a misogynist, why would you read another poster's perfectly calm words in that context ( apart from the fact you knew they were not male) ?

DH tells anyone who will listen that he married me so that he could 'guide me through life'. It started as a joke, but I think he's beginning to believe it now!

"Shrill? Lord, you are reading words on a screen, unless you are a misogynist, why would you read another poster's perfectly calm words in that context ( apart from the fact you knew they were not male) ?"
With every respect, try reading something other than mumsnet. It's a commonly used term to describe the way people articulate their views whether verbally or in writing. It applies entirely equally to men and women.

Never heard shrill to describe a man before, ever in the history of ever. Often heard it used to put women down, but obviously that's only my entire lived experience which obviously counts for nowt.

He's raised genitals again. That's twice now.

"Never heard shrill to describe a man before, ever in the history of ever. Often heard it used to put women down, but obviously that's only my entire lived experience which obviously counts for nowt."

It's not my problem. You should read more.

"He's raised genitals again. That's twice now."

I quite assure you, my genitals are not raised.

Words only ever used to describe women

I think it's a certain type of personality more than a gender thing. My dad is the original "know it all", it comes from being a university lecturer all his adult life. Now he's retired and loves to tell people how to do their jobs...plumbers, hairdressers, butchers etc... He thinks he's being helpful and showing an interest, I'm surprised he hasn't been hit in the face yet! He's definitely an equal opportunity bore though ;)

"have experienced this gendered phenomenon whereby a certain sort of man appears to regard himself as more qualified than all women, on all topics, and has this seemingly unstoppable need to explain things to women that these women are experts in. "

Many women think they are experts and more knowledgeable than all men on the issue of parenting for example. It's not because of their gender, it's because they are arseholes.

Shrillness is not a gendered characteristic either.

So you'd call a man 'shrill' would you?

Of course you would.

Nope, it is never used to describe either men or their manner of arguing.
(I do read quite extensively btw, and sometimes not even the internet.)

Speak or cry with a shrill voice:
[WITH DIRECT SPEECH]: ‘How dare you!’ she shrilled
noun

[IN SINGULAR]

A shrill sound or cry:
the rising shrill of women’s voices

No, not gendered at all, the Oxford English dictionary always uses she as the standard pronoun, everybody knows that.

I think you're a shrill sexist bigot, just for balance.

This is like MRA bingo

I quite assure you, my genitals are not raised.

Oh, is that why you're so grumpy? Oh yeah, I went there

There's no getting through to you, brightside. You don't want to consider a view other than your own, based on your own experiences. I choose to believe my own relevant experiences, and the experiences of the many women I've encountered IRL and online.

I also don't believe your wife knows half the shit you say. Or if she does, I doubt she finds it endearing.

You just enjoy coming onto these threads and telling women we're wrong, then acting all hurt and upset and "what did I do???" when women argue back. It's very sad.

I also read extensively, and have never ever heard 'shrill' used to describe a man.

Or nagging, or gossiping etc etc

Why is he being allowed to take over this thread?

You won't change his mind with reason and experience and, while it is entertaining listening to him dig himself deeper into his misogynistic hole, it is somewhat detracting from what everyone else has to say here.

Personally I've read enough copy and pasted quotes from that shrill harpie Brightside, how about someone else takes the limelight?!

God point crumble

"So you'd call a man 'shrill' would you?"

You bet. I have done, and it's commonly used to describe the behaviour of people and factions when discussing politics.