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New abortion scare tactics *sensitive warning, photo included*

437 replies

NeedACleverNN · 05/02/2016 09:33

This is doing the rounds on fb at the moment.

Seriously Hmm

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BunnyTyler · 07/02/2016 00:00

Uare, I've had two abortions - one at about 6 weeks (medical), one at about 12 weeks (surgical). I didn't and don't feel a shred of guilt about either.

Thanks to everyone for whom it was a painful or difficult situation and to all those who have tfmr's or miscarried.
Thank you for sharing your stories.

Zariyah · 07/02/2016 00:00

Uare have you met bumbleymummy? I think you'd get on like a house on fire.

altctrldel · 07/02/2016 00:01

I am pro life.

Whether or not id feel that way if i was sexually assaulted, knew my child would grow up with a serious disability that will seriously reduce their chances of any resemblance of a normal life or not I couldn't say.

But shit like this pisses me off. Let people make their own decisions.

TaliZorahVasNormandy · 07/02/2016 00:02

Uare, Do you really think that it really is that easy to just hand over a baby? What happens to all these children if no one had an abortion. Adoption isnt just turn up and pick your favourite and everyone will find parents.

I'm pro choice and if I ever found myself in that situation where being pregnant wasnt desirable, then at least I have options available.

Typical pro-lifers dont like abortion but dont give a shit what happens to the child after its born.

DixieNormas · 07/02/2016 00:08

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ShadowsCollideIsSurroundedByAd · 07/02/2016 00:13

Yup, indeed, Tali. I have a family member who is a very vocal pro lifer. She is also a member of an organisation that argues that the only real families are those that consist of a married man and woman, and their child(ren). So all that shouting about how every life is valuable and that life begins at conception. Then when the child is born to a single mother who's partner has long since scarpered, they write it off as not having a real family, a bastard child of a feckless single mother. They sicken me, they really do. They actually don't give a tiny shite about the children they claim to want to protect, it's just how they dress up their hateful misogyny as being 'moral' and 'right'. Fucking hypocrites.

OvariesBeforeBrovaries · 07/02/2016 00:14

Oh and -

Why do they have to ask someone having an abortion if they are sure they want to go ahead?

We get asked that before we get a tattoo. We get asked it before we have a haircut. We get asked "are you sure?" when we're trying on shoes in a shop to make sure they fit. I mean, I might look like an indecisive person because the person serving me in a restaurant the other day said "Are you sure?" when I ordered my food.

Are all of those bad things too?

ShadowsCollideIsSurroundedByAd · 07/02/2016 00:16

Zariyah, a match made in heaven, I think. Not that I'd known what heaven looks like, as I'm surely going directly to hell Wink

TaliZorahVasNormandy · 07/02/2016 00:18

Why do they have to ask someone having an abortion if they are sure they want to go ahead?

I imagine that they ask so the woman is to be sure that is what she wants, it's being sensible and caring towards a womans right to make a decision or change it if shes chooses too.

sugar21 · 07/02/2016 00:24

Fuck off Uare I have never read such a lot of sanctimonious rubbish.
You have no idea what you are wittering on about so stfu.
I have not had an abortion in fact my dd2 died from meningitis. How about you campaigning for all children to have a right to a menB vaccination if their parents wanted it That would be far more useful than posting ill informed crap and trying to guilt trip people
You have obviously lost the ability to comprehend what pp have told you. Posting evil links which do not apply to this Country is plain stupidity on your part.
Every woman has the right to choose what happens to her own body. You do not have the right to preach, neither do I, so I don't
You have some sort of pathetic agenda but it's not wanted so just go away and preach to the fairies and stop winding people up Grrrrrrrrrr

TaliZorahVasNormandy · 07/02/2016 00:27

Sugar, I couldnt agree more. My DN also died from Meningitis. My Dsis has called for it to be available to children.

sugar21 · 07/02/2016 00:30

Tali I hope it will be in future, it's just babies that are getting the jab atm, all little ones should be eligible.

TooOldForGlitter · 07/02/2016 01:04

Sorry UAre but I didn't feel any guilt about my abortion. Just relief. Ten years later, still, nothing but relief. Grateful it was so simple for me definitely. You're talking such utter shite that it's difficult to be civil to you. As I said earlier, if you don't want to have an abortion then don't. I'll fight for your right for that.

I'm not an incubator. My life isn't worth less if I'm harbouring another potential life in a part of my body.

OddSocksHighHeels · 07/02/2016 01:30

Sorry to disappoint you uare but I terminated at 8 weeks, I saw the scan picture beforehand and was awake and able to see exactly what was happening while I had the surgical procedure done. It wasn't wrong and I've never felt any guilt or remorse for it.

Flowers to those of you have had difficult circumstances.

differentnameforthis · 07/02/2016 05:52

It fascinates me how some people can look at it unemotionally, as that was never my experience. I loved my baby from as soon as I got two lines! So did I, with my first 2. My third unwanted pregnancy, no lie, I threw up in shock & was scared that I would be forced to carry on the pregnancy.

It was a parasite that I needed out of me.

I wonder if knowing I'm an only child because my parents had losses and couldn't have any more also affects why for me, a pregnancy is precious. I don't think so. I saw my first two as precious. Wanted form the moment I knew I was pregnant & I did everything I could to ensure safe, healthy pregnancies.

It is easy to view pregnancies as precious when you want that child. When you want to be pregnant. When you don't want it...there is honestly nothing precious about it.

It's such a sensitive issue I don't know how anyone could discuss it with strangers Sensitive, yes. It's
bot a dirty secret that

Jengnr · 07/02/2016 08:06

It's lucky you're not trying to change anyone's mind Uare. Because you're really really shit at it. Posting ill informed, ill thought out, rambling nonsense isn't doing any pro life cause much good; it's just making the whole thing look stupid.

UareWhatUeat · 07/02/2016 09:13

Come on

A baby is not a parasite.

That's just someone being deluded and something they tell themselves to make it easier to live with

Not believing a 12 week old unborn baby resembles a baby is also being deluded

People are deluded, it's human nature. They obviously have to lie to themselves to deal with the pain

But if the had had the baby adopted as the couple did in teen mom. They could of enjoyed watching the baby grow up from afar instead.

Open adoption exists... but yet another poster just couldn't be bothered to give their baby a chance at life

DixieNormas · 07/02/2016 09:17

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UareWhatUeat · 07/02/2016 09:18

And a standard scan is not the same as a 4d scan

Really!!! Why must people say such silly things and post them. Lack of education does truly show.

On a 4d scan you can see everything including gender and Facial features and who the baby resembles and their expressions

Abortion clinics don't offer 4d scans for a reason.
Because people would rather think of them as parasites than babies Angry

Oswin · 07/02/2016 09:18

Oh fuck off

UareWhatUeat · 07/02/2016 09:20

What it is then. Some alien thing?
A tumour? A bunch of cells?

Hmmm i think not

Beeswax2017 · 07/02/2016 09:22

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christinarossetti · 07/02/2016 09:23

uare is indeed either really thick or intent on winding people up.

Or both.

When someone's best response to any counter view is 'you're deluded' there's nowhere for me to go (other than to put the kettle on).

My experience is that there's unfortunately nothing to be gained by arguing with someone who appears incapable of engaging with others' opinions and experiences or reflecting on their own, so I'm off.

BertieBotts · 07/02/2016 09:27

It is a foetus, Uare.

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